Obadiah; Esau; The Edomites; Idumea; Turkey

Obadiah or Obdias, as he is known in the Greek Septuagint Old Testament, is the author of the smallest Book of the Old Testament, that is, a Scriptural Book just twenty one verses long, yet it contains some very important information for us in the last days of last days in the 21st century. His name means ‘Serving Jah’ or ‘Serving The Lord’.

Obadiah is said to have lived in the 6th to 5th century BC at the time of the captivity of The House of Judah (The Southern Kingdom of what was once a divided Israel) by the Babylonians so he was a contemporary of Jeremiah. The Northern Kingdom of The House of Israel was taken captive in 740-725 BC by the Assyrians (forefathers of the Germans). Now because Edom was complicit in Judah’s downfall, Obadiah calls for God’s punishment upon Edom with its total destruction – just a little background info and history.

Before I continue, I will add this caveat to inform you that I am NOT a prophet, nor do I have the Holy Spiritual gift of prophecy, so some things I say in this article should not be taken as 100% Truth (therefore you must do your own research to verify what I am saying is The Truth, or not The Truth). However, what I will say re the modern day identity of Esau/Edom (the Edomites) and the Idumeans (the later name of the Edomites, especially in the first century) you can take as solid gold Truth.

OK, so here we go, and I will start with verse nine of Obadiah, not verse one, for verse nine leads us directly into the genealogies of Esau/Edom, which are crucial to the understanding of the true identity of The Edomites, and I’ll tell you straight, right now, it ain’t The Jews and NEVER listen to any lying dogs that tell you the Edomites are Jews!

This means I’m gonna be ruthlessly blunt, because if you are a deluded brainwashed follower of the blasphemers Bertrand Comparet, the ex-con Jew liar, William (Bill) Finck of Christogenea disinformation infamy, and/or James P. Wickstrom, now deceased, you had better be ready to get educated, or otherwise you can take a hike, for there are no half-way houses or half measures with this crucial knowledge. It’s all very clearly defined, and those blasphemers are WRONG! VERY WRONG! This is big time errors I am speaking of here, not mistakes, for with the above mentioned people there will be an evil agenda in there somewhere. (See link No. 1 below.) So you have been warned. Now back to the topic at hand:

Obadiah 1:9 (KJV) And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount (the nation) of Esau may be cut off by slaughter. (Brackets mine)

Here in this verse we have an Edomite by the name of Teman and from his name comes the name Ottoman and the Ottomans were Turks (Ottoman is also known in the Arabic form as Uthman, from Osman). The Turkish Empire, which lasted from 1301 until 1923 AC, was known as The Ottoman Empire and consisted of Seljuk Turks, and please pay attention to this name “Seljuk Turks” for it will feature again.

From “The Ottoman Empire” by Larry Gormley:

In the 13th century, the region of Anatolia (most of the Asian part of present day Turkey) was controlled by the Byzantine Empire in the northwest and the Seljuk Turks in the south-west. Around 1290, Osman I (1258-1324), a Muslim warrior and leader of a small principality inside Seljuk Turk territory, declared his independence from the Seljuk sultan. The Ottoman Empire was founded. (Ottoman is derived from Uthman, the Arabic form of Osman.)”

Now Teman is mentioned eleven times in The Holy Scriptures, the first of which is in Genesis 36:11:

Genesis 36:11 (KJV) And the sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, and Gatam, and Kenaz.

And who was Eliphaz? From Genesis again:

Genesis 36:4 (KJV) And Adah (the Canaanitess) bare to Esau Eliphaz; and Bashemath bare Reuel; (Brackets mine)

So here we can see that Teman was a direct descendant of Esau/Edom, through Esau’s son Eliphaz. Now if we go to Genesis 36:1-2 we glean more crucial information:

Genesis 36:1-2 (KJV) Now these are the generations of Esau, who is Edom. 2 Esau took his wives of the daughters of Canaan; Adah the daughter of Elon the Hittite, and Aholibamah the daughter of Anah the daughter of Zibeon the Hivite.

Here we learn that Esau was also named Edom and he took two Canaanites for wives, which cost him his Abrahamic birthright inheritance from his father Isaac. The fact that he became a race mixer and/or a miscegenator is what grieved his parents, Isaac and Rebecca the most, as disclosed here:

Genesis 27:46 (KJV) And Rebekah said to Isaac, I am weary of my life because of the daughters of Heth (Canaanite Hittites): if Jacob take a wife of the daughters of Heth, such as these which are of the daughters of the land, what good shall my life do me?

This verse tells us exactly what Esau/Edom had done in marrying a Hittite and Hivite Canaanite, he had grieved his mother intensely, making her question even the purpose of her life, so in turn she made sure Esau/Edom’s inheritance went to Jacob/Israel his younger twin brother. Notice, too, how these Canaanite daughters, like their forefather Cain, were ‘daughters of the land’ which means any sacrifice would have been crops of the land, not the BLOOD of a lamb as offered up by Abel. Some important background information. (See link No. 4 below)

OK, moving on, and back to the subject of The Turks being from Esau/Edom and not the Jews. So let’s start at the best place = The Beginning:

Genesis 25:23 (KJV) And the Lord said unto her (Rebecca), Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger. (Esau/Edom was the elder and Jacob/Israel the younger)

So if the descendants of Esau/Edom are The Jews, since when did they serve anyone? Since when have the non-Jews not been servants of the Jews through their MONEY POWER AND USURY = The CROWN – The Rothschild WORLDWIDE Banking Cartel!? (Take note that Jacob/Israel was not the forefather of the Jews – see links 2 and 3 below)

So here we also learn that two nations would stem from Esau/Edom and Jacob/Israel which then makes these two men Patriarchs.

From “Turkey In Prophecy” by Herman L. Hoeh

Esau’s descendants play a vital part in world affairs today! Where are his descendants?

Notice some of the sons of Esau: Teman, Omar, Amalek (Genesis 25:11). These are not Jewish names! Yet some claim that the Jews are the children of Esau. Nothing could be further from the truth – as we shall presently see.

Esau, or Edom, as he is also called, lived south-east of Palestine near Petra. Arab Bedouins live there now. Then where have Esau’s children gone?

From the days of Nebuchadnezzar, who carried them captive, they disappear for 1000 years from history. Then suddenly we find Amalek the name of a city in Turkestan in Central Asia (from Paul Herrmann’s SIEBEN VORBEI UND ACHT VERWEHT, p.451). The Egyptians used to call the Amalekites the Amu. In Turkestan is the River Amu today! In Bible times the Edomites inhabited Mt. Seir (Genesis 32:4). In Turkestan is the Syr Darya – the River of Syr or Seir.

The leading Turkish tribe is the Ottoman. The prophecies referring to Edom or Esau mention Teman as the leading tribe in these latter days (Obadiah 9). The conclusion is inescapable. The Ottoman Turks are the sons of Teman. Merely the vowels in spelling have been changed over these past millenniums. From Central Asia the Turks or Edomites moved into Asia Minor. That is where Esau’s children live today! Turkey controls the “crossway” of the nations — the Dardanelles (Obadiah 14).

How clear, ESAU OR EDOM IS TURKEY today!”

Obadiah 1:14 (KJV) Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress.

Right, now I am going to shoot off at a bit of a tangent and change the thrust of this article considerably and yet it will still be based upon Obadiah in verse 4:

Obadiah 1:4 (KJV) Though thou exalt thyself as the EAGLE, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith The Lord.

Now quite few people make the silly mistake of linking this ‘Eagle’ with The USA and its national emblem, the Bald Eagle, but that is totally erroneous, for this ‘Eagle’ has a very different symbolic meaning altogether, and it also ties us to The Turks in a very surreptitious way. I will therefore copy and paste here some interesting pieces of information from the Masonic Dictionary.

Here is the opening paragraph from their website:

Here is the type of article that makes glad the heart of an editor. With its lack of guesswork and with its wide-sweeping learning, it may well serve as a model and an inspiration to budding (Freemason) students….” (Brackets mine)

So from this opening statement we can be fairly sure of the provenance of the information I am about to reveal and share.

OK, more from their website:

“….Brother Parker has recently completed an eight hundred page work on archaeology; when it is published we shall hope to review it in THE BUILDER. For some strange reason the two-headed eagle, for all its symbolical appeal, has seldomly attracted the attention of Masonic scholars.”

Here we can see mention of this symbolic two-headed eagle which will be crucial in our understanding of this Edomite/Turkey connection.

The most able treatment of it thus far has been the chapter in The Migration of Symbols by Count Goblet d’Alviela of Belgium; Brother Parker’s own article loses nothing by comparison with that chapter. Indeed, it carries the symbolism back to a far earlier time, and embodies more recent information. A student who may care to launch out upon researches of his own will find, along with the present article, that the references in the Encyclopedia Britannica, are valuable; consult the index volume under Double-headed Eagle; also see the articles on Heraldry and Hittites. For a reliable but rapid survey of what is known of the Hittites see Jastrow’s chapter on the subject in Exploration in Bible Lands, by Hilprecht (1903). See also Mackey’s Encyclopedia, Vol. I., page 225; and Ars Quatuor Coronatorum, Vol. III, page 104.”

WHAM No. 1!! there we have our first connection – The Double-Headed Eagle and its Hittite heraldic origins, and who did Esau/Edom marry? A HITTITE Canaanite!

Moving on:

THERE IS SCARCELY a symbol in any of the philosophical or chivalric degrees of the Scottish Rite so striking in design and import as that of the double-headed eagle. The Tau Cross and (The) Serpent of the Twenty-fifth Degree, the sun of the Twenty-eighth Degree, and the cross of St. Andrew in the Twenty-ninth Degree are indeed fraught with deep meaning, both historic and esoteric, but none can claim a more romantic or significant history than that of the Thirtieth Degree, that of the Grand Elect Knight Kadosh, or Knight of the Black and White Eagle. As an emblem this eagle is the epitome of religious andsymbolic historyand to trace the winding flight of the double-headed bird is to survey the whole course of civilization, from its grey dawn north of the Persian gulf to this modern World.…..”

That will be the symbolic history of the Edomite Canaanites via Esau’s Hittite wife. Take note, for ALL Canaanites are Serpent Seed miscegenated inbreeds from The Garden = Satan’s offspring through Eve. (See link No. 5 below)

When our ancient brethren, the holy Crusaders, passed through Byzantium on their way to the tomb of the Saviour, the Double-Headed Eagle which they saw embroidered in gold on heavy banners of silk, borne aloft by the Seljuk Turks, had been four thousand years on its way.”

WHAM No. 2!! The Seljuk Turks (Edomites) and their Double-Headed Eagle held high on gold embroidered banners as they went into battle. So let’s paste Obadiah verse 4 again just to remind ourselves:

Obadiah 1:4 (KJV) Though thou exalt thyself as the EAGLE, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith The Lord.

Turkish Dirilis Ertugral

To these same Crusaders this emblem was an honoured one, and though the enemy displayed it, yet they would fight to death for its possession and in triumph bear it, dripping with blood, to their encampments on the Levantine shore. It was from this Eastern Empire that the knights took this banner to adorn the courts of Charlemagne, and as a sacred relic hung it in the great cathedrals, whose architects and masons had so often been honoured by this Emperor of the West.”

Here above we can see how this Hittite Canaanite heraldic symbol wormed its way into the west.

From whence came this two-headed eagle, and how came it to be associated with Scottish Rite Masonry? The last part of this question is easier to answer than the first, for there is direct testimony that Frederick of Prussia supplied this crest during the formative stages of the Rite, but neither Frederick nor indeed Prussia could claim the exclusive right the use or to bestow it. It is the imperial emblem of Russia, Austria, Serbia and other portions of the disrupted Holy Roman Empire, and Prussia adopted the emblem long after it had flown over Byzantium as the royal arms of the “Emperors of the East and West.”

In Germany we find the Double-Headed Eagle used as the seal of the Count of Wurzburg in 1202; it was the coat of arms of Henricus de Rode in 1276; while Philip of Saxony bore it upon his shield in 1278. It was also the seal of the Bishop of Cologne, who no doubt adopted it from the city arms.

As the arms of towns and cities in England, this emblem appears upon the official seals of Salisbury, Perth, (Perthshire), Airedale and Lamark. In Holland and France there are also numerous instances of its use.

As the badge of royal orders we find the two-headed bird upon the emblems of the Austrian Order of the Iron Crown; in Russia upon the emblems of the Order of St. Andrew, founded by Peter the Great in 1689; in Poland upon the emblem of the Order of Military Merit, (founded May 24, 1792). As late as 1883, the King of Serbia adopted it as the emblem of the Order of the Double-Headed Eagle, commemorative of the restoration of the Serbian kingdom.

In these paragraphs we can see how Satan beguiled many western nations with their incorporation of the Double-Headed Eagle into their own heraldry – especially the Germanic nations.

But the double-headed eagle is not European in origin for its use depends upon the contact of Europe with Asia Minor, and indeed with trade or warfare with the Turks.

The Turkish name for this conspicuous emblem is HAMCA, and by this name they call it when they see it carved upon the walls of ancient castles, upon time worn coins or emblazoned upon frayed silken banners in ancient palaces.”

WHAM No. 3!! Now notice what we have here: 1) Further confirmation the origins of this Double-Headed Eagle are of Turkish/Edomite origins. 2) And the Turkish name for this image is HAMCA! WOW! = HAMitic CAnaanites!! So the Double-Headed Eagle is the incestuous Canaan’s heraldic emblem.

Travellers in Asia Minor, indeed, are surprised by the frequency of the double-headed eagle sculptures upon the castles of the Seljukian Turks, and upon the more ancient monuments of the Hittites, whose civilization was at its height when the Hebrews were wild tribesmen upon the Arabian plains.”

First off, pay no attention to the blasphemous mention of the Hebrews as wild tribesmen. The Hebrews were always husbandmen with their flocks and herds of animals not wild men, however Esau/Edom WAS a wild man and ferocious in battle. He and his clans were warriors of warriors, and this is yet another characteristic that does NOT FIT THE JEWS. Edomites were NEVER JEWS.

My last paste from the Masonic Dictionary webpage and here is their address: http://www.masonicdictionary.com/doubleeagle.html

I would advise you go there, for there is much more historic information.

OK, that’s it for this article and I hope you found it rewarding and enlightening.

In Yashua Messiah’s Holy name

Messenger Charles

1. Exposing The Lying Blasphemer Bertrand Comparet Parts 1 and 2:

2. Were Abraham, Isaac and Jacob/Israel, Jews? – The Beginning:

3. The Origins of the Royal Judahites and Canaanite Jews explained:

4. The Counterfeit Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion:

5. Did Eve Have Sex With The Devil or Did She Just Eat Some Fruit?:

8 thoughts on “Obadiah; Esau; The Edomites; Idumea; Turkey

  1. A two headed eagle representing two opposites. The secret of freemasonry is their symbolism. The square and compass. As above, so below.

    Obadiah or Obadias, do you happen to know whether he is the same in the time of Elijah and hid an hundred prophets in a cave? 1Kings 18:4

    • And the black and white chequer board tiles they use on the floors in their lodges.

      That must have been another Obadiah, for Elijah lived in the times of Ahab and Jezebel who ruled the Northern Kingdom of Israel.

      I liken the Clintons to Ahab and Jezebel.

      They say Elijah was born in circa 900 BC and died in 849 BC about 350 years before Obadiah.

  2. Thanks Charles, a great piece! Thanks for the link. On occasion Hocus Pocus Productins puts up something from Transpocalypse Now, which is generally always about the hermaphrodite (two-headed) deity of the Masons. Those quotes reveal what a bunch of messed up nuts they are; twisted and mutilated.

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