Now this article could also have been entitled, and I quote: “The Writings of a Stiff Necked Unteachable Reprobate” such were the errors put forth recently by a false messenger and blasphemer on my blog with regard to the above mentioned subject. If ever there was an example of “Majoring in the Minors”, to compound his errors, then this is it, and make no mistake.
However, let’s deal with first things first. What does this expression mean, that is, “A Move of The Holy Spirit?” I ask this, because it’s a favourite jargon term of the Charismatic branches of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion, with their: “next new experience trick” and/or “what shall we do this month to keep ’em occupied and happy.” Now an active ingredient in the above shenanigans is their so called “moves of the spirit,” but are they moves of The Holy Spirit? I, regrettably, have been in their company in the past when these so called ‘moves’ are supposed to have taken place and I can tell you, folks, I am not the least bit convinced, at all, that these things are, or were, the works of The Holy Spirit. A spirit YES, most definitely, but not The Holy Spirit.
Moreover, what of this term “A Move of The Holy Spirit”, where does it come from and is it Scriptural? Yes it is Scriptural, but only just by a gnat’s whisker, chuckle chuckle. Here it is, in the only place it can be found in the Holy Scriptures:
2 Peter 1:21 (KJV) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but Holy men of God spake as they were moved by The Holy Ghost (Spirit). (Brackets and emphasis mine)
So what is this ‘moving’ of the Holy Spirit all about? Well it’s simple isn’t it, in the above Scriptural scenario it’s a prompting by The Holy Spirit to speak out and say something or do something, and in this case it’s to prophesy – well these guys were prophets, so what do we expect – silence? Furthermore, (and this point is crucial) were the Old Testament Prophets born of God? Were they indwelled 24/7 with The Holy Spirit as a Christian is? (I speak here of True Christians not fake religious Christians of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion) No, they were not, so they relied upon moves of the Spirit when The Holy Spirit came upon them to do their miraculous works for Yashua Messiah who was the God of the Old Testament.
However, does this expression ‘a move of the Spirit’ relate or apply to anything else, say an alleged healing or someone babbling away with a load of Charismatic gobbledegook (fake spiritual tongues)? No, it doesn’t. Healing is a gift of The Holy Spirit and if you are fortunate enough to have this special gift then The Holy Spirit will work through you and you will heal people as and when the opportunity arises. Once indwelled by the Holy Spirit you can use that POWER as and when, not wait for a movement – it may also depend upon how much Faith you have and how strong you are in that Faith.
Likewise with tongues, if you need to communicate with someone of a foreign tongue or you wish to pray privately in a Spiritual tongue or even publically and there is someone present to interpret your Spiritual tongue, then just get on with it. However, on these occasions, there will be no special ‘moves’ of the Holy Spirit as suggested by our erroneous commentator, you, with that Spiritual gift, will speak in tongues or you will heal people just as Peter did. Whether it will be your shadow that heals or not I cannot say.
Now am I splitting hairs here? No way, because our erroneous commentator does not believe in the indwelling of The Holy Spirit at all, so he, and please note this, without The Holy Spirit is always waiting for the next ‘move’ to take place. He’s like someone waiting for a bus at a bus stop before he does something. It’s as if he cannot do anything until his spiritual bus turns up and he hops on. Laughable or what?
So what does this tell us? It tells us he’s not birthed in Yashua Messiah, he has no understanding of what it means to be born of God (born again). This also tells us he has no understanding of what takes place at Baptism and the gifting of The Holy Spirit and yet he had the audacity to say this:
“The best advice I can leave you with is to make an appointment with your doctor and ask him or her to refer you for evaluation with a psychiatric specialist. I come from a medical family and know these people are generally pretty good at what they do.”
Cheeky eh? but these two sentences reveal much. 1) He blasphemously accuses me of being insane (this in itself is a blasphemy against The Holy Spirit) and 2) He shows where his faith lies, that is, in the secular and worldly medical profession and yet boasts of moves of The Spirit when he claims he has healed someone. Is this double mindedness? You bet your life, and why would a Spirit empowered healer express faith in the satanic medical profession? Something to hold in the back of our minds whilst I press on.
As an aside, I will also add that being accused of being insane is very encouraging, because the Serpent Seed Jews said the same thing about Yashua Messiah:
John 10:20 (KJV) And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye Him? (Emphasis mine)
OK, back to the subject at hand and a question. If this topic of ‘moves of the Spirit’ is so important, why did Yashua Messiah, through Peter, only mention it ONCE in His Holy Scriptures? If it was so important why not mention it at least as many times as Grace, that is, 170 times in 159 verses of The Holy Scriptures. This alone should tell us what is important to Yashua Messiah and it’s certainly not Old Covenant style “Moves of the Spirit”.
Moreover, for the sake of this discussion if we look up the word ‘healed’ in the New Testament we find it mentioned 46 times in 45 verses. Furthermore, I have been through them all without finding the term: “moved in The Spirit” ONCE!!! in relation to healing. So what does this tell us? It tells us that these sensationalist, gimmicky, ‘when and where’s the next new experience going to happen,’ types have misappropriated the term: “Moved by The Holy Ghost (Spirit)” from Peter’s letter and are misusing or misapplying it to build a circus show of tricks and religious gimmicks in order to build a BELIEF SYSTEM!!! Interesting term eh? And you guessed right, it’s one of matey’s and here we get his satanic use of it:
“I am therefore not using religious jargon but speak from direct experience of covenant relationship with the Father through Jesus their reciprocating via the Holy Spirit, if that fits your belief system.”
Notice, “Covenant relationship.” Do I sense a touch of The Old Covenant Law in operation there somewhere rather than The New Covenant under Grace? We shall see. He then denies he is using religious jargon without even realising he has done that very thing by the misappropriation of the term ‘moved by The Spirit’. Have you noticed something else? It’s as if he’s doing The Father a favour. LOL. HE is favouring THEM with his agreement via The New Covenant, not THEM blessing him via that same New Covenant – THEY are reciprocating after it appears that he has done them a favour!! This thinking is based solely on the corrupt: “I have accepted a ‘Jesus’ as my saviour” nonsense.
Furthermore, what is a Belief SYSTEM? How can a heart felt belief in Yashua Messiah ever be a cold systematic or methodical belief system? Here’s a Dictionary definition or three from Dictionary.com:
1) Having, showing, or involving a system, method, or plan: 2) given to or using a system or method; methodical: 3) arranged in or comprising an ordered system.
I mean, come on, who would use such ridiculous terminology other than a Spiritually dead Bible intellectual, theologian or philosopher with Scriptural head knowledge only? He must have written this stuff up when he was at the bus stop waiting for his next ‘move of the Spirit’ after having put on his managing director’s suit or army uniform. More mirth here for the author.
Having got this far, I must now return to the beginning of our discussion when he came onto my blog in answer to this point that I had made to another visitor.
This is what I said:
“No it’s not possible for a BELIEVER to commit the unpardonable sin, only ex-believers, who turn their backs on Yashua Messiah. This would then mean them turning against Him and in so doing blaspheming against The Holy Spirit that He sends to us at the point of our Baptism and Spiritual birthing and gifting.”
Here is his question:
“Or could this be one who thinks they believe in Jesus but reject Him by rejecting a move of the Holy Spirit?”
Straight away we can see his obsession with this Cainite-Judeo-Christian, Charismatic, Religious, Old Covenant humbug of ‘moves of a spirit’. Not only that, but we also have him judging others whom he pigeon holes as those who only THINK they believe in Yashua Messiah. I mean, who does he think he is? How arrogant, judgemental and self-righteous can you get? Has it even dawned on him that these people may be right and have sussed him out with his mickey mouse obsession re moves of a spirit, and he is wrong? I doubt whether the thought has ever crossed his mind such is his arrogant self-righteousness and blindness.
Finally, am I saying that we cannot be prompted (‘moved’) by The Holy Spirit as indwelt born of God (born again) sons and daughters of God? Of course not, but as indwelt new creations born of God (born again) we should be operating off our own Holy Spiritual bat and movings, not waiting for a spiritual bus that may never come. We have been given the freedom to get on with Yashua Messiah’s work, so let’s get on with it and be done with all this Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religious Charismatic gobbledegook jargon about “moves of the spirit”.
Well spoke reply in my opinion. First off as I addressed in another comment of your blog. If people would just follow back in time what the Jesus, johovah mean they would never use it again to describe either, but use their true names. Which the NAME is vital, it’s not not was ever ok to use substitute them. Everything around us, for so so long ago had been and still is being tampered with to keep folks in the dark, including NAMES. It is terrible what churches are and have been doing, terrible! Coming from mainly pentacostal re-legion. Well never again. Folks study the names alone, for if your worshipping those names, your not worshipping who you think your worshipping. And Yes! demonic powers most certainly relish there in disguise, or is it in plain sight? Study out where the church originated, it’s not ok what there doing, it’s not ok according to Scripture. Very certain the Most High Elohim isn’t pleased.
Jesus is just the Greek translation of The Hebrew ‘Joshua’ which means ‘Deliverer’.
I use Yashua which, again, is just another way of saying Joshua. I do not use ‘Jesus’ because I do not want to be associated with fake Christians
What name(s) do you use?
Mistake, the capitol j in jesus was a typo mistake in my post just a minute ago.
OK, but why does a capital letter matter?