First of all we need to know, that in predictable mind numbing consistency, all manner of satanic nonsense and mumbo jumbo is taught by the proponents of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion (mainstream Christianity) on this crucial topic. All this, too, when it is the most important event within the life of a potential son or daughter (Spiritual novice) of The Father, and brother or sister of Yashua Messiah (the Lord Jesus Christ).
Let’s be very clear about this, for I am not exaggerating one jot or iota when I state that mainstream Christianity (the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion) commits more blasphemies regarding Baptism than it does on most other things. The only exceptions being The Roman Catholic Mass and The Trinity Lie, they, being the biggest blasphemies of all.
Moreover, we should not be surprised by this, for if a Spiritual novice is not protected by true Christian shepherds, at this crucial time in their Spiritual development, this is a vital unfastened window through which The Adversary can, and does, climb in order to steal away vulnerable new converts. This invariably occurs if the Christian Spiritual shepherds and/or overseers (Elders or Pastors) are not on their Spiritual guard duty and thereby protecting the charges for whom they are responsible, that is, in assisting them on their way to that strait narrow path of redemption.
Now this protection, in the first instance, should take the form of sound Good News (Gospel) Grace filled teaching about the coming Kingdom of God. That means, making sure that the new convert understands that they’re being called of The Father to His Son, Yashua Messiah. They also need to understand that the reason they are coming to Baptism is because The Father has brought them (dragged them) to this point in their lives:
John 6:44 (MCV) NO MAN can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw (drag) him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
This means, also, that it needs to be made plain to them, in no uncertain terms, that it is not something that they have made a self generated decision to do. This nonsensical idea that it is a self-generated decision based upon a mainstream Christian idea that man has freewill, which is pure nonsense, must be removed from their thinking. They must understand that our calling is just that; a calling:
Ephesians 4:1 (MCV) I therefore, the captive of The Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the CALLING wherewith ye are CALLED.
1 Corinthians 1:26 (MCV) For ye see your CALLING, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are CALLED.
Moreover, this is an awesome display of the Godhead’s power within our lives; it is nothing but a wonderful miracle, and it is essential that the new convert is made aware of this foundational Truth.
The new convert also needs to know what living under Grace really means, that is, living under ‘The Law’ of Christ, which is not THE LAW (of Moses). Paul mentions this ‘Law’ of Christ twice:
1 Corinthians 9:21 (KJV) To them that are without Law, as without Law, (being not without Law to God, but under The Law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without Law.
Galatians 6:2 (KJV) Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil The Law of Christ.
Grace, which is The Law of Christ is thus described as our LOVE of God the Father and His Son and also our LOVE for our neighbours, for this fulfils The LAW (of Moses), including The Ten Commandments which are just a summary of the Whole Law of Moses:
Romans 13:10 (KJV) Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore LOVE is the fulfilling of The Law.
Now because the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion does not understand this crucial element in our walk with Yashua Messiah, they do not teach, fully, the fact that new converts are new Spirit led men and women when they emerge from the Baptismal water and that the old man/woman of sin dies in the watery grave with Yashua Messiah:
Romans 6:3-4 (KJV) Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by The Glory of The Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
The new convert needs to know, too, what Confession means and that it is a one-off event at Baptism. They also need to know about the commitment of taking up their cross, that is, ‘counting the cost’ before Baptism and being prepared to suffer the trials of this life and not quit when the going gets tough, and to keep on believing come what may, that is, growing in faith and trust.
Most importantly they need to know that ‘salvation by works’ is a heinous blasphemy, and that they will change for the better as Yashua Messiah leads them to change and empowers them to change through the Power of The Holy Spirit.
Romans 8:4 (MCV) That the righteousness of The Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after The Holy Spirit.
Boot strap self help, self righteousness and works by our own strength, or self improvement through self-generated will power is of no use to Yashua Messiah at all. He needs men and women who are prepared to voluntarily follow Him, willingly rely on Him and trust Him, and change because they want to follow and change, not because they have to change and follow, that is, by obeying the commandments, as did The Pharisee Canaanite Jews – in the letter only.
All new converts need to learn and know these real fundamentals before they are Baptised – if they cannot agree with these fundamentals then you know that they have already been led astray by the adversary and are not receptive to The Truth. To prove what I am saying is true, here are two very straight forward verses from The Holy Scriptures:
John 6:65-66 (KJV) And He said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. 66 From that many of His disciples went back, and walked no more with Him. (The italicised word ‘time’ I have removed from verse 66, it being a KJV translator’s corruption by addition)
Note this and note it firmly in your minds, these learners (disciples) were offended at the thought that they were called of The Father to His Son, and this is because they wanted to think (in their puffed up vain minds) that they had made the decision to follow Yashua Messiah, not because it was The Father’s will and His will alone. This, dear people, is the stumbling block for those of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion (mainstream Christianity), for they cannot accept this Truth. I know this, too, for I have gone head to head with many of them in the past over this crucial concept and they stubbornly refuse to believe it, and in turn make the lame judgemental accusation of calling me a Calvinist – which I am not.
OK, so if our new converts have no problems with any of the above important points, and are prepared to admit that they are sinners in need of redemption, and are willing to repent, that is, they have an inner desire to want to repent (change) from their old ways and have a new desire not to sin, then there is no valid reason why they should not be baptised. This should then be followed immediately by the laying on of hands, after their dipping, in order to receive the gift of The Holy Spirit, as displayed for us here:
Acts 8:15-17 (MCV) Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive The Holy Spirit: 16 (For as yet he it was fallen upon none of them: only they were Baptized in the name of The Lord Jesus.) 17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received The Holy Spirit. (see link No. 1 below)
Please note, none of these changes allude to change via our own strength, self-discipline or through self-generated efforts at commandment keeping, as many blasphemers would have us believe. (see link No. 2 below) After Baptism and the receiving of the Holy Spirit the convert is saved and if he or she were to drop down dead an anno-second after this event, they would, in the future, enter the Kingdom of God in the First Resurrection when Yashua Messiah returns to this earth to set up His Kingdom – The Kingdom of God.
Let this momentous Truth sink in, especially all those deceived people who follow a doctrine of “Exposing Those Who Contradict”, that is the deceased L. Ray Smith’s satanic slave-ation teaching, for if we are not saved after having received the gift of The Holy Spirit then those who teach such blasphemies will be in serious trouble in the resurrection.
So with my opening preamble finished, let’s move on to some of the more laughable ideas of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion regarding Baptism and, of course, the water sprinkling of little ones immediately comes to mind, otherwise known as “Christenings” in the AngliCAIN faith. The thing is, is this water sprinkling nonsense Baptism? No, a zillion times no, how can it be? In order to be baptised the baptizee has to know what he or she is doing and has to understand the commitment involved, how can a helpless little one make those kinds of crucial decisions about their own lives? The whole idea is a joke – a Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religious joke, and a complete mockery of Baptism.
So what is a Christening, and what does it represent? Easy, at worst, it represents symbolic circumcision, and at best it represents a meaningless religious blessing. In reality, though, it’s just a hangover of the Judaic tradition of when eight day old boys were circumcised to meet with the demands of the Old Covenant Law. Obviously the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion would not want to be seen openly observing and giving its blessing to such a blasphemous event, now that Grace has come in, so they camouflage it with sprinkling the little one with water. On the surface it all looks very harmless, with the even more pointless god-parents, but underneath it’s all a meaningless satanic religious ritual and deception.
Right, what do we have next? Ah yes, The Alpha Course and its Holy spirit weekend, and what a load of blasphemous rubbish that is. How can that be I hear you ask, The Alpha Course brings thousands of people to Jesus, doesn’t it – especially in the UK? Well, yes, it brings thousands of people to a Jesus, but which Jesus, the real Lord Jesus Christ – Yashua Messiah, or a counterfeit long haired effeminate wimp Jesus with a goatee beard otherwise known officially as Rome’s marketing logo? In Truth these images are all based upon Leonardo da Vinci’s self portraits and not Jesus Christ at all.
So what is the spirit and doctrine behind this Alpha Holy spirit weekend, for the instructors within this course pride themselves highly on their use of The Bible in order to teach their potential new converts? Unfortunately, as with much of Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religious teaching, they get hold of a Biblical story and twist it to suit their needs.
In this case it’s the story of Peter and Cornelius, and they make it a catalyst or an excuse to move away from sound Baptismal teaching, just because Cornelius received gift of The Holy Spirit before Baptism. Here, they erroneously quote: “without Baptism.” Now is this true, and what is the real issue at play here within this story? (See link No. 3 below) For elsewhere Peter emphatically says this, and I quote:
Acts 2:37-38 (MCV) Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the Messengers (apostles), Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be Baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Now did the Cornelius event set a precedent that changed what Peter was teaching here regarding the only process involved with Baptism? Was Yashua Messiah trying to confuse us regarding the process to salvation through Baptism by allowing Cornelius to receive the gift of The Holy Spirit BEFORE Baptism? No way, never in a zillion years, because the Cornelius event was a one off event all about Peter, not Cornelius, Cornelius was just a tool or an agent that Yashua Messiah used in order to help Peter repent of his Judaism – his obeying, his Commandment keeping or his Law keeping. Do you know the story? If not, then read it, for it makes fascinating reading and you will find it in Galatians 2:11-21 and Acts 10.
It starts off with Peter having a problem which is described in Galatians 2:11-21 whereby he withdrew from eating with non-Israelites, being in fear of those who were still of the Judaic persuasion, those of the circumcision within Peter’s congregation (blasphemers). Paul admonishes Peter quite severely for his behaviour and then Yashua Messiah follows up with the vision of the beasts in a sheet in Acts 10. In Acts 10:28 Peter refers to his problem:
Acts 10:28 (MCV) And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is an Israelite to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
Reading between the lines we can plainly see that this was a tough lesson Peter had had to learn and we can also see that this is the real issue of this passage of Holy Scripture, not the fact that Cornelius had received the Holy Spirit prior to being Baptised. This, in turn, means that it was not a precedent for everyone to be birthed in this way. It was a one off and yet, contrary to this, this is just what the deluded numbskulls of the Alpha Course do. Look folks, The Holy Spirit cannot reside with sin; the body of sin MUST die in the watery grave of the Baptismal pool and any so called spiritual birthing without this happening is very likely a counterfeit birthing. It’s the work of charlatans and tricksters.
A point worth mentioning here, as an aside, is that those of the Roman Catholic faith try to get around their all authoritative Peter the Pope nonsense by saying that the Peter in Galatians is not Peter the Apostle but, rather, another Peter. Ha; ha; the things these tricksters and counterfeiters try and pull in order to defend their religious quackery. There is only one Cephas or Kephas or Peter in The New Testament and he received a firm admonishment from Paul for his Judaising and hypocrisy in refusing to eat with non-Israelites. This means that their ‘Pope’ was 1) not in full authority and 2) most definitely not infallible!! Chuckle; chuckle; chuckle, the house of cards that is Roman Catholicism or The Roman Cult.
Finally, and very importantly, you must make sure your Baptism is into Yashua Messiah’s (Jesus Christ’s) name ALONE and not into the pagan Trinity. (See link No. 4 below) And with that, it’s a cut!
1. Exposing the Trinity Lie!: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/exposing-the-trinity-lie-part-1/
2. When Did The Biblical Word ‘KEEP’ Become ‘OBEY’?: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/when-did-the-biblical-word-keep-become-obey/
3. THE PAIN IN THE BUTT That Is The Story of CORNELIUS! – Acts 10 https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2018/09/25/the-pain-in-the-butt-that-is-the-story-of-cornelius-acts-10/
4. Matthew 28:19 Is a Spurious Verse and Baptism Is Not Into The Trinity: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/should-christians-be-baptised-into-yashua-messiahs-the-lord-jesus-christs-name-alone-part-1/
Where would one get baptized in this way?
Are you wanting to get Baptised?
Yes. I see how crucial it is to becoming free in deed. As I see the baptism, it is a spiritual affair, and not contained in some ritual. It comes not from me renewing my mind, but from the Father renewing it through trials and inspiration. Now, the question came, how would I identify myself to the world and the men in it once I am born again? If we are born again, it seems, we would have a new identity, and not the identity we ignorantly adopted and have worn (like a mask) that was given to us by the creators of this fictional world. In short, I am led to believe that we as true Christians, a peculiar people, would identify ourselves with our original identity, our first gift when we arrived here- our original, God-given true name, and not the ab-original debtor combined legal fiction name as written on the Birth Certificate. Also, it reads in the gospels that we are to proclaim our acceptance of the offer of Yashua publicly. So, as I was sitting at my computer it came to me, and I wrote this (later to be recorded in the public record):
Let it be known now and forever more on heaven and on earth that I hear the Father calling me to his Son and that I do come forward out of the masses of the dead and into the living as an emergence with firm reliance on the words of Yashua Anointed as written down in The Holy Bible to confess my sins to the Father Yahh and to accept the offer given by his only begotten son Yashua to be forever more his servant and his servant alone forsaking all other masters. I hereby accept the God-given Christian unalienable name Howard given to me on my arrival here and cast off the agnomen surname MCLAUGHLIN and accept the God graced pardon and the inheritance which comes with it.
It is my belief that Yashua Anointed died for my sins on the stake and was raised up for my justification, I do now receive and confess him as my personal savior and guarantor in all matters whatsoever.
Authorized King James Bible
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Graced God-given unalienable Christian private real name.
Dated in the Year of Our Lord and Savior (anno domino, A.D.), Yashua Anointed
Your Baptismal declaration looks very good. I must admit I have never seen anything like it before, but if you feel it’s something you would like to do, then fine. I would see it as something additional to your Baptism, as two actual witnesses being present at the event of your Baptism is usually sufficient.
Baptism is more than just a renewal of your mind, although that is an important part of it – it’s very much a heart thing rather than just a mental thing – do you understand that?
More important is the truth that at Baptism a literal new being is Born – a completely new man residing thereafter in a dead body of sin, instead of a living body of sin – the living body of sin having been drowned in the Baptismal pool. As you come up out of the watery grave a new man is created in whom The Holy Spirit can now dwell 24/7. Hands are laid upon your head, a prayer is uttered and a request for The Holy Spirit to come to you and that’s it.
John 3:3 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be Born Again (anew from above), he cannot see the Kingdom of God. (Brackets mine)
Let me know if you have any further questions.
Hi, Hope you don’t mind but I have quite a few questions I shall be asking over a period of time, hopefully in relation to the subject matter.
I was wondering how to proceed, if could you expand on my questions below with some advice and suggestions it would be very much appreciated.
Who, That would be my son and I, how many witnesses are needed and do they have to be called as well.
What, Full body immersion baptism in the Messiahs name and receive the gift of the Spirit.
Where, Bathtub, canal, river…This might be a tricky one.
When, We are ready and understand the calling.
Why, “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
Many thanks in advance. Chris
Not at all, ask as many questions as you wish.
Your last point first – when it is the right time for YOU and YOUR SON, and you are both sure that you are being called by The Father – only YOU and YOUR SON can know this – no one else. It’s a private heart thing and you will both know deep down if you are being called.
Just you and your son are witnesses enough.
You can use the names Yashua Messiah or Jesus Christ. I only use Yashua Messiah in order to separate myself from fake Christians who use ‘Jesus’. And, yes, full immersion into His name alone not into the trinity – watch the legs and feet because they can sometimes pop up out of water when being dipped.
The sea, a river, a bath tub if its big enough, or a swimming pool – early morning when it’s hopefully quiet.
A long as you both “count the cost” i.e. fully understand what you are doing and the life time commitment you are undertaking and that there is no turning back or looking back once at the plough – onwards and upwards.
As Peter said to Him when He questioned them about turning away from Him as some had done: “Where shall we go? You and only you have eternal life.”
You said: Why, “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
After having been called by The Father first. The Father calls us to His Son and then through His Son we then have access to The Father.
Best regards to you and your son.
Hi, Many thanks for your advice, I never thought of a swimming pool, great idea and yes we have been living as the called for some time, we can see the sign of the times where virtually all around us are eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage and we are not ; ‘ )
Good man, keep up the good work and spread The Word.
I was baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and I love your article on whose name a true believer should be baptized in. This revelation came to me many years ago, and you she’d light on it to make it more clearly.
Once a person is baptized, is it a must that they should receive the Holy spirit instantly? or can it happen at a later time?
Also, can you have the Holy Spirit without knowing it?
lastly speaking of free will, how can we explain predestination to new convert? It seems to be one of the hardest topic to explain how that some were chosen before the world began? In that case did God intentionally create people that had no chance of being saved for his own purpose? Most people see that as a cruel God. I want to fully understand it.
Glad to hear you were correctly Baptised. Not many these days are. Oh yes receive the gift of The Holy Spirit straight away – why wait? We need that Power in order to survive as Christians. We’re only half-cocked or half-baked without it. Just as the Learners (disciples) were before the upper room, wind and tongues of fire, event.
People being called will have Holy Spirit visits in order to show them The Way, but The Holy Spirit does not stay with them 24/7. It comes and goes as and when they need it to encourage them to move forward to Baptism. This may take many years as it was in my case. It all depends on how stiff necked and stubborn we are as lost souls, but The Father is very patient.
I wouldn’t get into the deep stuff like predestination with novices, just stick to the basics about the coming Kingdom and how this evil wicked age must come to an end and His Kingdom be set up – that is The Gospel – the Good News and do they want to be a part of it?
Many are called – few are chosen and it’s the chosen that will inherit The Kingdom in The First Resurrection when Yashua Messiah returns to this earth. The lost and unsaved masses will remain in their graves until The Second Resurrection when they will get their chance after the Great White Throne Tribunal where they will be evaluated on what they have done in this life.
The lake of fire is only for The False Prophet, the Son of Perdition and The Devil at this stage – there maybe more but we don’t know as yet how many. Most people will repent and get their chance – people like our extended families who were not called in this age.
The cruel God propaganda is straight out of the mainstream Christian abyss – hence I call it the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion – the religion of Cain as opposed the The Truth of righteous Abel who loved God and was loved by God.
This is a very abridged version of what will occur so let me know if there is anything here you do not understand.
Just chiming in to suggest that for my experience it has been a whole lot of being called through stages to an awakening and understanding. There isn’t any confirming of mind but a leaving behind.
On that note I’m not sure why the reservation of being “at the plough”. Sounds a bit harsh for what seems should be incredible peace and joy. Perhaps it will be actually like travelling through to a new world; like Frodo putting on the ring but a permanent one – of the Messiah kingdom of course? A new person would emerge and the old one no longer exist – where does that leave loved ones who aren’t being called? (“Jim is acting a bit strange lately. Has something happened to him?). Can you provide any insight on that?
PS Have engaged a young father with whom baptism may be possible. Funny how it is so obviously NOT about joining their ‘gang’ but they can’t help but promulgate their authority nonsense🙃
I was wondering what had happened to you. The silence was almost deafening. LOL
There are no stages as such, just determining whether or not you are ready to count the cost and commit 100%, that is, answer the Father’s call – IF YOU ARE BEING CALLED and ONLY YOU can answer that.
Tolkien was a Papist, so beware when using his stories as some kind of spiritual guidance.
Correct. The old man dies in watery grave and a new man is created when he rises out of the water and is gifted with the Holy Spirit.
Who is Jim?
When you say a “young father” do you mean a so-called Roman Catholic ‘father’?
Look forward to your reply.
“Jim” is just an example not a real person. Just trying to understand if one dies in the watery grave how does the new relate to the world???
Young father is Anglican. 🙃
I’ve been reading Job. We’re talking about every month. I think it’s out of my hands and I’m just taking things as they come.
You’re welcome as always.
The New Man is now no longer OF the world, but he is IN the world, because at present there is no other world, but this world is nearly over and when Yashua Messiah’s Kingdom comes The New Man will be at home and will live in The Kingdom of God and this world will be finished – gone for good.
Have nothing to do with men who call themselves ‘father’, for they are of The Devil.
Yashua Messiah gave firm instructions on this issue:
Matthew 23:9 (MCV) And call no man your (spiritual) father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Good thinking, pray and leave it in The Father’s hands.
I’m finding Jobquite the read. Good timing. Concentrating on doing everything for God’s glory.
Just keep away from counterfeit fake Christians who call themselves father and then you will be doing everything for God’s Glory.
What business has The Light with darkness? Keep yourself unspotted from the world.
In Yashua Messiah’s name
I trust you and your wife are well.
I have tried to reach your own e-mail address many times, but have had no success. If you remember, I asked prayer for a disciple who understood this baptism, but I still know no one. Is there anyone reading this in the area of southeast Pennsylvania? Thank you for your knowledge wisdom, Charles, and the use of this site.
Yes we are well apart from age related aches and pains. LOL
What e-mail address do you have?
All you need is another fellow believer and if you don’t know one then approaching other ‘churches’ is your only option. This will involve challenging them re their present beliefs and witnessing to them.
The only denomination I know that Baptises correctly is Pentecostal Oneness fellowships, but be aware that they do not believe in the Duality Godhead. They are monotheists.
I have a Learner (disciple) in Australia faced with the same obstacle as yourself. You will find our discussions elsewhere here on my blog. He has been talking to a Baptist minister.
Good to hear from a fellow believer.
Thank you for your response, Charles.The address I have is firstname.lastname@example.org. I check your writings and videos often, and I’m sure you realize this, but the enemies often remove your videos, so could they be behind the daemon (how ironic) notice I get when my e-mail is returned to me? If I remember correctly, it’s called the talpiot program. I will send a simple greeting right now to see whether it is successful. In the near future I hope you will be receptive to talking with me as I have been studying to show myself approved to I AM. For now, the peace of Christ. Gav
Oh yes, that e-mail is dead, try this: email@example.com
I have no videos so the enemy cannot remove them LOL.
The peace of Christ to you, too
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