As Born of God Christians, Do We Need Theology and Theologians – Part 4 – The ‘Church Fathers’

The first three parts of this series will be found here under the title: “Theology and Theologians or Bible Intellectualism and Bible Intellectuals – Parts 1 – 3”

By way of what one might call a postscript I thought it would be wise to complete this series of articles with some historical evidence to prove that the first century Assembly of God was hijacked by assorted philosophers, theologians and Bible intellectuals after, if not before, 100 AD.

This is what Paul calls “The Mystery of Iniquity” in 2 Thess 2:7 so we know the Devil and his followers – the men of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion, were already at work in first century undermining the True Gospel message of the coming Kingdom of God.

In 1 Thess 5:21 The Holy Scriptures say “To prove all things”: Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

The Word of God i.e. Yashua Messiah also states quite clearly from His own lips:

Matt 23:9 (KJV) And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Yet what do the illegitimates do? They call men their ‘father’? So, straight away, having read this Scripture we should know that the title ‘church fathers’ is a bogus title. It also tells us everything we need to know about a bogus organisation that commands its followers to call its priests ‘father’. We can plainly see, too, that all this evidence flies in the face of what Yashua Messiah commanded; “Call no man your father upon the earth”. Now which parts or part of this statement do these blaspheming wretches and liars not understand!!?? Please note, this command of Yashua Messiah’s has nothing to do with our calling our biological father, father – our physical father is our father, but he is not our Spiritual father. In this situation it is our calling men our spiritual father that is the wicked blasphemy.

Plainly, from the above, we can see already that there is enough proof to discredit 90% + of Christendom with their priests being called ‘father’ – the opposite of what Yashua Messiah commanded. This article, though, is about a special group of men who are revered as ‘church fathers’ by those who are, in general, Biblically ignorant and Spiritually blind i.e. theologians, Bible intellectuals and even the lay membership duped lemmings of the Roman Cult. This state of affairs can be summed up as the Spiritually blind i.e. the ‘church fathers’, leading the Spiritually blind – the lay membership. These men, whom I listed earlier in this series, are looked up to by theologians and Bible intellectuals to such a degree that they are put on a par with the Apostles, no less. Now should they do this and, more important, why do they do this?

The answer to the first question is no and I will be explaining in more detail the reasons why the answer is no, later. The answer to the second question is very straight forward and the reason why they revere these so called ‘church fathers’ in such a way is because the Holy Scriptures and/or Yashua Messiah is not enough for them. The Holy Scriptures and simple trusting belief in same does not meet with their requirements, it is insufficient for them. Why is that? It is like that because the Gospel message of The Kingdom is too simple for them; it doesn’t allow them to show off their puffed up intellectual acumen.

You see the “Simplicity that is in Christ” is designed for people of all IQ levels. We don’t have to be university professors in order to understand the coming Kingdom, Faith, Salvation and Grace; these concepts are very easy to grasp and understand by all people, even those who have had no education at all.

We must also understand that these intellectual Bible ‘experts’ are Spiritually dead and they therefore rely wholly on a combination of supposed hard historical text book facts and an unhelpful dollop of carnal human logic and reasoning (man’s wretched fallen condition) in order to maintain their quasi-beliefs. The true fact that they believe in a lie or lies is by the by – delusion is delusion and you cannot be partly deluded any more than a woman can be partly pregnant. In reality most of them don’t even believe in Yashua Messiah (the Lord Jesus Christ) at all.

OK, that’s enough of these silly 21st century egotistic people, so we’ll now move on to even sillier egotistic people of the first, second and third centuries AD – the so called ‘church fathers’. I listed some of their names in part two, so let’s investigate, now, some of the things that they said and wrote in order to prove whether or not they were the real thing or just a bunch of counterfeiters posing as Christians?


Now this individual is supposed to be the Clement that lived circa 30-100 AD and is mentioned in Phil 4:3:

Philp 4:3 (KJV) And I entreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellow labourers, whose names are in the book of life.

Now the so called church father Clement wrote an epistle to the Corinthians stating this:

“Let us look steadfastly to the Father and Creator of the universe, and cleave to His mighty and surpassing great gifts and benefactions of peace. Let us contemplate Him with our understanding, and look with the eyes of our soul to His long-suffering will. Let us reflect how free from wrath He is towards all His creation.” (The Ante Nicene Fathers, vol. I, p. 10, chap. XIX)

Here in this paragraph we can see three blatant errors and/or lies which tell us that this Clement is not the Clement of Phil 4:3. This Clement with his epistle to the Corinthians is Biblically ignorant, Spiritually blind and is therefore a counterfeiter:

1) “The Father and Creator of the universe”. Yashua Messiah was the Creator of the universe, not The Father:

John 1:1 (KJV) In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.

2) “With our understanding he says”. Holy Scripture clearly states that we should not lean or rely on OUR understanding:

Proverbs 3:5 (KJV) Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Leaning on their own understanding is exactly what theologians and Bible intellectuals do and, like this Clement, is one of the easiest ways to find them out! When it comes to these ‘church fathers’ it’s “Errors R Us” folks and non-stop.

3) “Let us reflect how free from wrath He is towards all His creation”. Here is another lie and to show just how much of a lie:

Psalm 7:11 God is angry every day.

Romans 1:18 (KJV) The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men.

The first ‘church father’ found out and disqualified from the writings of his own hand!!


Polycarp is reputed to have lived from 65-155 AD and of all the so called church fathers he is probably the most well known and much esteemed or held in high regard by many theologians of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion.

“Polycarp was one, having in our own times been an apostolic and prophetic teacher, and bishop of the Catholic Church which is in Smyrna. (ibid., p. 42, in the “Martyrdom of Polycarp”, chap. XVI).”

2 Peter 2:18 (KJV) For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, (The whoring of the daughters of the Mother of Harlots) those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. (Brackets mine)

Notice here the warning from Peter to escape from them while you can, so what are you waiting for!?

There is no greater swelling term of vanity than the non-Biblical term “Catholic Church”. Make no mistake there is no such thing written of in the Holy Scriptures. It is wholly man made, wholly vain and wholly unholy, so do not be deceived. Catholic means Universal and Yashua Messiah did not come to this earth to start a ‘Universal Church’. He came to start His Assembly – The Assembly of God:

Acts 20:28 (KJV) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost (Spirit) hath made you overseers, to feed the Church (Assembly or Ekklesia) of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Yashua Messiah did not purchase a ‘universal church’ with His own blood but rather The Assembly or Ekklesia of God. Please make special note of this crucial Truth

In Polycarp’s epistle to the Philippians, he preaches a false gospel. Please note, in this epistle he writes:

“”When you can do good, defer it not, because alms delivers from death”. (ibid., p. 35, chap. X)”

Ha! Ha! The love of the old filthy lucre betrays ’em again, not to mention another lie posing as a something from the Holy Scriptures. Listen folks, nowhere in the Holy Scriptures does it say: “Alms delivers from death”, but there is an organisation where they do teach it and I’ll give you a clue:

“Say 20 ‘Hail Mary’s’ and put £20 in the box and then your sins will be forgiven, your place in heaven will be assured and our ogre god won’t put you in the fiery pit for all eternity when you die!”

What a protection racket, I wonder if the Mafia nicked the idea; everyone’s a winner – sound familiar?

Justifiable mocking apart let’s get some Truth copied here to help reveal another counterfeiter:

1 Cor 13:3 (KJV) And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

Again, nowhere in the Holy Scriptures does it say that giving alms or gifts of money will deliver a man or woman from death, especially if the gift is not accompanied with Godly love (agape). There is only one thing that delivers us from death – the free undeserved gifts Grace and Faith and with those gifts, Salvation.

Here are more of Polycarp’s writings: in Chapter 2 of his epistle to the Philippians he states:

“By grace ye are saved, not of works” and then in complete contradiction in Chapter 4 he states “and let us teach, first of all, ourselves to walk in the commandments of the Lord”.

Hello, excuse me? I thought it was Yashua Messiah who teaches us through His Holy Spirit, just when did salvation become a do-it-yourself programme or a self-help teach yourself programme?

1 John 2:27 (KJV) But The Anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same Anointing teacheth you of all things, and is Truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.(Emphasis mine)

Here we can plainly see we’re taught by Yashua Messiah through His Spirit – we don’t teach ourselves.

In Chapter 5 he writes:

“If we please Him in this present world, we shall receive also the future world, according as He has promised to us that He will raise us again from the dead, and that if we live worthily of Him, “we shall also reign together with Him,” provided only we believe”.

Here he contradicts himself again within the same sentence and makes salvation conditional: If we please Yashua Messiah we shall inherit the Kingdom of God. This is not Grace this is salvation by works. I’ll tell you straight, too, that if it was up to how pleasing a man is, I would have no chance of salvation. Then, he says, if we live worthily of Him we shall reign with Him – yet more conditions and finally he then adds his own contradiction “provided we only believe.” Now which is it, as it seems Mr Polycarp doesn’t know. Are we saved because we believe and keep on believing no matter what or is it based upon how we perform in being pleasing or our behaving worthily!? What kind of a ‘church father’ is it that doesn’t even understand the basics of the undeserved i.e. the free gift that is Salvation? Yet another counterfeiter is exposed by his own hand.

I will be continuing my exposé of these so called church fathers in my next article in this series – part 5.

8 thoughts on “As Born of God Christians, Do We Need Theology and Theologians – Part 4 – The ‘Church Fathers’

  1. Hello again Charles,

    “You see the “Simplicity that is in Christ” is designed for people of all IQ levels” – applause !

    However, this sounds too complicate for me ! “Yashua Messiah was the Creator of the universe, not The Father:”, could you shed some more light on it ?

    When John says “all the things were made by Him” does he relates to The Father or The Son or The Godhead ? The verses John 1:1-3 always sounded “mysterious” to me so I never really bothered trying to catch the deeper meaning.

    Thanks in advance.

  2. Hello Goran,

    The only God man has ever seen or heard is Yashua Messiah:

    John 5:37 (KJV) And The Father Himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His shape.

    So when we read verses like this:

    Gen 3:8 (KJV) And they heard the voice of The LORD God walking in The Garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of The LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

    This means that The God of the Old Testament is Yashua Messiah, not The Father.

    John 1:1-3 (KJV) In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.

    All things were made by The Word and The Word was God and The Word is Yashua Messiah. Here are some of Yashua Messiah’s other titles The I AM, The Light, The Way, The Truth, Melchesedec, The King of Righteousness, The King of Salem (Peace) and of course The Word.


  3. Thanks Charles,

    I completely missed this verse John 5:37, maybe because in my Bible which is translation from the German (Luther I think) Bible, it says “… and you never seen his face” (not shape).

    Then again, didn`t we (mankind) heard Father`s voice when John baptized Jesus in Matthew 3:17 (also in Mark and Luke):

    “And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” ?

    Also, do you have some article about the Book Of Revelation ? It would be interesting to know your thoughts about it.

    Again, thanks a lot !

    • Hi Goran,

      Ha ha your first test. Notice how easy it is to create contradictions. Not that you’re doing that, but the trap is there if you see what I mean.

      John 5:37 are The Words of Yashua Messiah Himself saying that no one has ever heard or seen The Father so there can be no argument against what He said. We must always take the strong stand point on these issues and John 5:37 is the strong stand point on this.

      This means when we come to what LOOKS LIKE a contradiction we have to eliminate that contradiction from the strong stand point.

      Matthew 3:17 (KJV) And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

      Yes and notice ‘A’ voice, but not The Father’s voice, so most likely an archangel or one of the 24 elders speaking on The Father’s behalf.

      No, I have not done anything in depth on Revelation and that’s because it still remains a mystery to me, to large extent. I think that’s because we are actually living in the last days of the last days and Revelation is going to unravel in front of our very eyes soon and we will be witnesses to those events. It’s just a matter of watching and praying.

      Thanks again for your contribution.

      • Hello,

        In the bible the angels always say “I am a messenger of the lord”.

        If this voice was not God’s voice as you say but a messenger voice of an angel then surely the statement “this is my son of whom I am well pleased” would be the equivalent of the angel ‘pretending to be God’ as God’s angel always introduce themselves in the holy bible as messengers of the lord before they speak.

        This would be the angel saying ‘this is my son of who I am well pleased’ thus the angel would claiming to be God himself which is demonic.

        This would make the angel not of God. This makes it impossible for as the scriptures record it for the voice to not be Gods.

        Would you care to reply?

      • Yes I will reply with three questions for you:

        1) Do you believe that the Good Friday to Sunday, mainstream Christian observance, is based upon the Holy Scriptures and true?

        2) Do you believe that this verse is true as written? “Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.”

        3) Can you tell me when The Father called you to His Son, Yashua Messiah (Jesus Christ)?

        Once you have answered these I will deal with your other ideas.

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