When Did The Biblical Word ‘KEEP’ Become ‘OBEY?

Further to my earlier articles entitled….

“Should Christians Keep The Old Covenant Commandments?”

“SINNERS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD, So How Do We Become Sinless and Perfect?”

“1 John 5:3 Why Are YASHUA MESSIAH’S Commandments Not Grievous?”

….and all here on my page blog, I thought it was time to finish this aggravating subject off completely with this final death blow to all the satanic Judaising Commandment OBEYING mongrel dogs out there. Notice, I used the words Commandment OBEYING and NOT Commandment KEEPING and below, if you continue reading, you’ll find out why.

First, though, a list of definitions from a secular dictionary to reveal what the word ‘keep’ means and from The Online Free Dictionary:

Keep:

1) To retain possession of: kept the change; must keep your composure.

2) To have as a supply: keep spare parts in case of emergency.

3) To provide (a family, for example) with maintenance and support: “There’s little to earn and many to keep” (Charles Kingsley).

4) To support (a mistress or lover) financially.

5) To put customarily; store: Where do you keep your saw?

6) To raise: keep chickens.

7) To maintain for use or service: an urbanite who didn’t keep a car.

8) To manage, tend, or have charge of: Keep the shop while I’m away.

9) To preserve (food).

10) To cause to continue in a state, condition, or course of action: tried to keep the patient calm.

11) To maintain records in: keep a yearly diary.

12) To enter (data) in a book: keep financial records.

13) To detain: was kept after school.

14) To restrain: kept the child away from the stove; kept the crowd back with barriers.

15) To prevent or deter: tried to keep the ice from melting.

16) To refrain from divulging: keep a secret.

17) To adhere or conform to; follow: keep late hours.

18) To celebrate; observe: keep a ritual.

Now as you can see, none of the above definitions carry the meaning of outright obedience and if we are in the habit of keeping something we’re not actually obeying, we’re holding on to something or possessing something and yet the dogs of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion would have us believe or think otherwise when using this word ‘keep’.

In definition 17 we can see ‘adhere to’ or ‘conform’ to something, but is that anything other than our agreement to do so – a voluntary action on our part? OK, one can conform to rules which are not necessarily Laws, but does it always have to be rules? No, it can be to act in accordance with or be in harmony with or comply with societal norms and not enforced at all i.e. to act in accord with the prevailing standards, attitudes, practices, etc., of a society or a group, or to be herd minded like wildebeests. In my opinion modern conformists are unthinking unquestioning zombies who cannot think or act for themselves i.e. slaves and as confirmed by this man:

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.”

– Charles Mackay, 1841

However, although important, this is not really the point I am making here because point 17 is just one out 18 definitions which all refer to the word ‘keep’ and it meaning all things but obedience!! So how do the Judaising mongrel dog numb skulls in the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion come to the conclusion that the word ‘keep’ automatically means ‘obey’? Where do they get it from? All will be revealed and before we move on let’s get some Scriptural related insight on to this crucial subject:

And from Strong’s Concordance New Testament Greek:

Keep or Keepeth – G5083 – tereo – tay-reh’-o – From teros (a watch; perhaps akin to G2334); to guard (from loss or injury, properly by keeping the eye upon; and thus differing from G5442, which is properly to prevent escaping; and from G2892, which implies a fortress or full military lines of apparatus), that is, to note a prophecy; [figuratively (or metaphorically) to fulfil a command]; by implication to detain (in custody; figuratively to maintain); by extension to withhold (for personal ends; figuratively to keep unmarried): – hold fast, keep (-er), (ob-, pre-, re) serve, watch.

So what have we got here? Looks to me like we have agreement with the secular definitions for the word ‘keep’ and no mention of the words OBEY or OBEDIENCE at all. We have, first and foremost, ‘to keep watch’ and ‘to keep a guard’ or ‘to keep an eye on’ or ‘to be watchful’ and ‘to prevent escaping’ or ‘to prevent losing’ or ‘to hold fast as precious’ and ‘not let go of’.

Now what have these accurate and specific definitions of the Greek word ‘tereo’ got to do with obeying and/or obedience? Answer NOTHING!!! Absolutely NOTHING!!! Yet what do they try and do? I’ll tell you, they bung in a load of figurative or metaphorical lying gobbledegook and say “figuratively to fulfil a command.”

This agenda based opinion, by addition, my friends, is pure unadulterated codswallop – total Judaising mongrel dog religious humbug. How do you know that and how can you be so sure? Easy and we’ll go the OT Hebrew definitions for our proof and evidence and to confirm what I have been saying is true.

And from Strong’s Concordance Old Testament Hebrew:

Keep or Keepeth – H8104 – shâmar – shaw-mar’ – A primitive root; properly to hedge about (as with thorns), that is, guard; generally to protect, attend to, etc.: – beware, be circumspect, take heed (to self), keep (-er, self), mark, look narrowly, observe, preserve, regard, reserve, save (self), sure, (that lay) wait (for), watch (-man).

Moreover, and before I continue lets KEEP in mind that the Old Testament was the era for the OBEDIENCE to The Law and The Commandments – this is when The Law and The Commandments were in force. This is when the Israelites were supposed to be OBEYING The Commandments but seldom did so.

However what do we find in Strong’s definitions for the word ‘keep’ from the OT Hebrew? 1) ‘to hedge about as with thorns’ i.e. ‘to protect’ or ‘to guard’ as in the Greek NT, 2) ‘to attend to that protection’ 3) ‘to take heed’ 4) ‘to look and/or observe’ 5) ‘to regard i.e. value and preserve’ and so on and so forth but NO REFERENCE TO OBEYING. Now as I said, this is OT times with The Law and/or The Commandments well and truly in force, but no reference to OBEYING with regard to the word ‘keep’. Why is that? Here is why:

Exodus 20:6 (KJV) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and KEEP my Commandments. (All caps mine)

Let’s get it through our heads folks, Yashua Messiah, the God of the Old Testament, never wanted OBEDIENCE, just our LOVE FOR HIM and a voluntary willingness to following Him not a bit and bridle commanded authoritarian following within the condemning chains of The Law and The Commandments.

He confirms this for us here, again in His Old Testament:

Psalm 32:9 (KJV) Be ye not as the horse, or as the mule, which have no understanding: whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle, lest they come near unto thee.

Finally, now that I have revealed what the word ‘keep’ really means, read these New Testament Holy Scriptures in The Light i.e. His GRACE Light and let’s be done with all this satanic Judaising mongrel dog nonsense of OUR trying to OBEY The Commandments but, rather, to KEEP The Commandments as was always Yashua Messiah’s intention – willingly and voluntarily because we LOVE HIM and His Commandments:

John 14:15 (KJV) If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 15:10 (KJV) If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in His love.

John 14:21 KJV) He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

1 John 2:4 (KJV) He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and The Truth is not in him.

1 John 3:24 (KJV) And he that keepeth His commandments dwelleth in Him, and He in him. And hereby we know that He abideth in us, by The Spirit which He hath given us.

1 John 5:2 (KJV) By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep His commandments.

1 John 5:3 (KJV) For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments: and His commandments are not grievous.

Revelation 12:17 (KJV) And The Dragon was wroth with The Woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 14:12 (KJV) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and The Faith of Jesus. (All emphasis mine)

I trust you have all found this article to be freeing, helpful and GRACE FILLED.

26 thoughts on “When Did The Biblical Word ‘KEEP’ Become ‘OBEY?

  1. …21Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and every expression of evil, and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save your souls. 22Be doers of the word, and not hearers only. Otherwise, you are deceiving yourselves. 23For anyone who hears the word but does not carry it out is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror,…
    James 2

      • Please explain. It say doer of the word not keeper. It is obvious. However please how exactly do you reconcile this verse with your teaching. I am struggling to understand you?

      • I fail to see what point you are trying to make. The subject is KEEPING the Commandments, that is, keeping hold of as precious or keeping a watchful eye upon due to their priceless high value. What part of my article did you not understand? Why are you struggling? Explain yourself.

        Do you live under The Law or under His Grace.

  2. Matthew 23:23
    23Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You pay tithes of mint, dill, and cumin, but you have disregarded the weightier matters of the Law: justice, mercy, and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
    Here Jesus says practice or do that weightier matters of the Law. It is true they had no word for obey but Shemar included that idea. Jesus seems to suggest the very same thing. James says be ye doers not hearers or keeper. Why can you not clarify this point. Your article is forcing an illogical position. Jesus suggest they should have been doers of the weightier matters of the Law. After all He was perfect in His doing of the Law.

    • Yashua Messiah was UNDER THE LAW – The LAW was nailed to the stake.

      Yashua Messiah’s followers are UNDER HIS GRACE.

      THE LAW is for the LAWLESS = people like YOU – JUDAISING MONGREL DOGS! Any further satanic comments from you will be trashed!

      • So are you saying that there is no right or wrong anymore? Yes our salvation is ensured by Yeshuas death outside of the law and we are no longer held to it’s standard. But that does not mean everything is permitted? For example, let’s say you, a believer with salvation under the grace and sacrifice of Yeshua, had a choice to murder someone in cold blood, and let’s say (for purpose of argument) that you wanted to. If you murdered said person, you are still saved by his grace, but that does not mean you should murder him right? So correct me if I am wrong but it seems that you are arguing against the should. Do you think you should murder that person, simply because you are free under Yeshua messiah? That’s where I think me and this other guy who was commenting are getting tripped up. We don’t think you should sin, just because you can, and I don’t know for sure, but it seems that you are implying that you may as well sin, simply because you can under his grace. If so, that’s where I disagree. Blessings

      • I’m sorry, but you haven’t a clue!

        “So are you saying that there is no right or wrong anymore?”

        1) Do you understand the concept of regeneration and the sincerity involved, that is, repentance – a willingness to change and an inner desire not to sin, plus confession of ALL our sins, which is the admission of being a sinner in need of redemption, followed by full immersion Baptism into Yashua Messiah’s name alone and the gifting of The Holy Spirit?

        2) Do you understand the concept of The Law being written on the HEARTS of those regenerated?

        3) Why would a Spirit led regenerated Christian want to murder anyone? The whole idea is ludicrous and beyond parody.
        Romans 8:4 (KJV) That the righteousness of The Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after The Spirit.

        4) Are you Baptised full immersion into Yashua Messiah’s (Jesus Christ’s) name alone and gifted with the Holy Spirit?

        “So correct me if I am wrong but it seems that you are arguing against the should.”

        Yes you’re wrong, 100%, and I don’t argue, I tell people The Truth and then they argue back, which is total futility.

        Born of God Christians CANNOT SIN for they are born of God:

        1 John 3:6 (KJV) Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither known Him.

        1 John 3:9 (KJV) WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN; for HIS SEED remaineth in him: AND HE CANNOT SIN, BECAUSE HE IS BORN OF GOD.

      • “I’m sorry, but you haven’t a clue!”

        A: Hence why I am asking you these questions: to fully understand your point. Your hostile and condescending tone is unwarranted. I’m simply inquiring, and don’t claim to perfectly know the bible as you seem to claim.

        “1) Do you understand the concept of regeneration and the sincerity involved, that is, repentance – a willingness to change and an inner desire not to sin, plus confession of ALL our sins, which is the admission of being a sinner in need of redemption, followed by full immersion Baptism into Yashua Messiah’s name alone and the gifting of The Holy Spirit?”

        A: Yes, hence why I questioned your reasoning behind this statement and article of yours: “BEWARE!! Chocolate Covered Cyanide!! – “Yah Knows No One Could Ever Keep All His Laws. I Just Do The Best I Can, Cause I Love Him””

        2) Do you understand the concept of The Law being written on the HEARTS of those regenerated?

        A: Once again yes, and why I questioned your reasoning as to why it is wrong to try and keep the commandments, and to refrain from commiting sinful acts.

        3) Why would a Spirit led regenerated Christian want to murder anyone? The whole idea is ludicrous and beyond parody.
        Romans 8:4 (KJV) That the righteousness of The Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after The Spirit.

        A: Obviously one wouldn’t. You’re right, it is… Hence why I wrote, “let’s say for the purpose of argument”. Surely you understand that I am simply trying to eliminate variables to emphasis the point of the hypothetical argument, in order to come to a clearer understanding. By responding as you did, you are ridiculously and intentionally assuming that I wouldn’t know that, which is deliberately insulting on your part. And by doing so, you are distracting both of us away from the main point, ultimately wasting each of our times, and creating hostility. None of which are productive, so I would ask that you kindly refrain from such pointlessness. I AM TRYING TO LEARN FROM YOU, SO I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE RELAX YOUR TONE.

        4) Are you Baptised full immersion into Yashua Messiah’s (Jesus Christ’s) name alone and gifted with the Holy Spirit?

        A: I believe I was baptized into the trinity, but I can’t remember my pastors exact words when it happened. The church I grew up in and was baptized in is trinitarian so I am still looking into such. I Thought you made great points in your article on this subject, and I am still conducting further research. If I were to go to my pastor and say that I want to be re-baptized, but this time in the name of Yeshua Christ alone, I’m sure he would accept.

        ““So correct me if I am wrong but it seems that you are arguing against the should.”

        Yes you’re wrong, 100%, and I don’t argue, I tell people The Truth and then they argue back, which is total futility.”

        A: Ok, that’s why I asked. I’m trying to fully understand your point. By saying “I don’t argue”, you are clearly and intentionally twisting the the true meaning and intentions of my using the term “arguing”. Obviously I didn’t mean that you are creating an argument in a confrontational sense… I mean seriously man… Come on… Clearly I was using the term arguing to mean “making a point”. And you’re a smart guy, you knew what I meant and yet decided to twist my intentions and meaning, but for what gain? All it did was distract us, and waste both of our times. So if I need to make myself more clear, go back and change the word “argue” to “making the point”, so that it reads: “So correct me if I am wrong but it seems that you are making the point against the should.” Better? To me it sounds grammatically worse but whatever.

        “Born of God Christians CANNOT SIN for they are born of God:”

        A: Well this simply isn’t true unless you believe John is allowed to contradict himself. John has already made it clear that all followers of Christ sin. “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us” (1:8). But sometimes a goal can be stated absolutely as a means of encouragement. A coach may tell his beleaguered team, “We do not lose!” A mother may discipline her daughter, “Good girls do not do that.” Really? A team never loses? Good girls never fail? Of course not. Sometimes the goal stated in absolute terms becomes the motivation for achieving that goal, no matter how imperfectly.

        John was writing to people who believed it was okay for followers of Jesus to live in ongoing sin. As their apostle, their coach, their spiritual parent, John takes a deep breathe and proclaims for all sinners to hear: “We do not sin.” “It is not in our character to walk in darkness.” “We have been made better than that by Christ.”

        “1 John 3:6 (KJV) Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither known Him.

        1 John 3:9 (KJV) WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN; for HIS SEED remaineth in him: AND HE CANNOT SIN, BECAUSE HE IS BORN OF GOD.””

        A: Why would you conveniently pick and choose verses 6 and 9, but cut out verses 7 and 8? They add important context which disagrees with your reasoning. Here they are:

        No one who abides in Him [who remains united in fellowship with Him—deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin. No one who habitually sins has seen Him or known Him. Little children (believers, dear ones), do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who practices righteousness [the one who strives to live a consistently honorable life—in private as well as in public—and to conform to God’s precepts] is righteous, just as He is righteous. The one who practices sin [separating himself from God, and offending Him by acts of disobedience, indifference, or rebellion] is of the devil [and takes his inner character and moral values from him, not God]; for the devil has sinned and violated God’s law from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. No one who is born of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, because God’s seed [His principle of life, the essence of His righteous character] remains [permanently] in him [who is born again—who is reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose]; and he [who is born again] cannot habitually [live a life characterized by] sin, because he is born of God and longs to please Him.
        1 John 3:6‭-‬9 AMP
        https://bible.com/bible/1588/1jn.3.6-9.AMP

        I think the AMP does a much better job translating these verses than the KJV.

        Blessings

      • “A: Hence why I am asking you these questions: to fully understand your point.”

        I have no points, points are for vain secular minded debaters. I tell people The Truth and The Truth cannot be debated, for The Truth IS! Do you understand THIS!?

        “I’m simply inquiring, and don’t claim to perfectly know the bible as you seem to claim.”

        Well clearly this a lie, for your first comment here was one of telling me what’s what and, in response, I made it clear to you that your place here would be one of being a learner (disciple), not a teacher, which I will prove to be correct when I have finished answering this comment.

        “A: Yes, hence why I questioned your reasoning behind this statement and article of yours:”

        No you don’t, for if you did you wouldn’t be striving to do anything, so all your striving exposes you as boot strap, salvation by works, fake Christian – a Judaiser, unless of course you’re prepared to admit it, and repent of it, but I see no signs of you doing that, as I will show.

        “By saying “I don’t argue”, you are clearly and intentionally twisting the the true meaning and intentions of my using the term “arguing”.”

        I am twisting NOTHING, for your attitude betrays you, and your explaining away nonsense just displays your ego, inner arrogance and pride, something more to be repented of.

        Now here we have an example of you ARGUING and even attempting to TEACH ME!

        “A: Well this simply isn’t true unless you believe John is allowed to contradict himself. John has already made it clear that all followers of Christ sin. “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us””

        John was NOT addressing born of God Christians in 1 John 1, so there IS NO CONTRADICTION!!

        Go here and LEARN:

        1 John 1 – The First Chapter of John’s Letter Explained:

        1 JOHN 1 – THE FIRST CHAPTER OF JOHN’S LETTER EXPLAINED

        When you have finished LEARNING come back as a humble disciple, not an arrogant know-nothing whipper snapper who thinks he knows.

      • So ultimately here’s what it boils down to: Salvation can only come through faith in the grace of Yeshua messiah’s sacrifice. Those covered by such, can still commit acts of sin, but cannot be considered guilty of committing sin acts in gods eyes, because they are atoned for by the grace of Yeshuas Messiahs sacrifice. Therefore, even though those who are saved cannot be perfect, and cannot reach salvation through “good works”, “avoidance of sin”, or “doing their best to keep the commandments”, they should still strive for/desire to do so because they have the holy spirit and his commandments written on their hearts. Therefore, it IS NOT “chocolate covered cyanide” to desire to, and try your best to keep gods commandments and avoid sin. It is only ‘chocolate covered cyanide” to believe that doing so will get yourself salvation.

        If you disagree with this, please show me how and where, because I do not see it. I am VERY open-minded and simply searching for truth. Please abstain from hostility or condescension when answering as it is only distracting, off-putting, and simply unproductive. Thank you for your time.

        Blessings

      • “So ultimately here’s what it boils down to: Salvation can only come through faith in the grace of Yeshua messiah’s sacrifice. Those covered by such, can still commit acts of sin, but cannot be considered guilty of committing sin acts in gods eyes, because they are atoned for by the grace of Yeshuas Messiahs sacrifice. Therefore, even though those who are saved cannot be perfect.”

        You have just contradicted yourself and you’re still arguing. My article above STANDS as written, and you’re right in one thing and one thing only – YOU CANNOT SEE!

      • Where did I contradict myself. I asked you to explain. If you want someone to learn, you have to explain things, you can’t just tell them their wrong.

      • Are you asking me to copy and paste what I’ve already written? It’s there for you to read. So I’ll ask again; Where in what I said, did I contradict myself? What about my statement on salvation do you disagree with?

      • It’s there in the paragraph I copied and pasted. You see you don’t even understand what you’re writing, so blind are you.

        “So ultimately here’s what it boils down to: Salvation can only come through faith in the grace of Yeshua messiah’s sacrifice. Those covered by such, can still commit acts of sin, but cannot be considered guilty of committing sin acts in gods eyes, because they are atoned for by the grace of Yeshuas Messiahs sacrifice.”

        “Therefore, even though those who are saved cannot be perfect.”

        The last sentence contradicts what you said before.

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  4. David inspired by God wrote the Psalms, and he was in a hurry to keep the law.
    119:60 I made haste, and delayed not to keep thy commandments.
    The Holy One of Israel, Jesus Christ, fulfilled the Law He once gave to Moses.
    God descended from Heaven to come and redeem His people. The Child of Bethlehem and now the Only High Priest, and the Everlasting King, fulfilled the Law of God to the very end. HE did it all for us. We are under grace. This cannot be repeated enough.
    That’s why I think it is so important to know Who Jesus Christ is while walking on earth. It is also a way to bring glory to His wonderful Name. Jesus Christ the Royal Judahite.
    Great article, Mr. Charles.

      • My pleasure! Just my pondering. I enjoy reading your articles because you explain the topics so very well.

      • Glad to be of service and all praise to Yashua Messiah, for all things English, as a child and even as a young adult, I hated, and I was useless at writing essays etc. etc.

        Maths was always my thing. LOL

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  6. Ahh, ok. Now I see where the confusion is.

    1) You chopped suspiciously chopped my statement short… mid sentence… Why would you do this if not for deceptive means? You copied and pasted:

    “Therefore, even though those who are saved cannot be perfect.”

    What I actually wrote was:

    “Therefore, even though those who are saved cannot be perfect, and cannot reach salvation through “good works”, “avoidance of sin”, or “doing their best to keep the commandments”, they should still strive for/desire to do so because they have the holy spirit and his commandments written on their hearts.”

    So you left out nearly the entire statement which provides context that is inconvenient to your false claim that I contradicted myself. That doesn’t look good. But even so, if we stick to the part that you cropped out, I could’ve been more specific with what I said. My bad, I assumed incorrectly that you would understand what I was saying, because you are an intelligent person. But that’s ok, let’s specify now and clear it up.
    What I meant exactly by, “Therefore, even though those who are saved cannot be perfect.”, is that they cannot be perfect in their works/actions. Or in other words, they can not live life without commiting sins. HOWEVER, they are not guilty of those sins because of Yeshuas sacrifice, and the following parts of that sentence (which you chopped out) explain and back that up in more depth. So once again I ask you, why did you chop it out in your claim that I was being contradictory?

    Your claims are full of pointless and unwarranted petty technicalities, hostility, condescension. All of my questions on your cite have been humble and sincere with a desiredness to understand your message better, because it is mostly amazing! The questions I asked were simply to learn more but you have only answered me with empty content and insults, which, quite frankly, is pretty inconceivable, because I don’t see what you would have to gain other than your pride remaining intact. It seems you are the blind one because you leave the log of pride in your eye, while attempting to point out the twig in others eyes. Say what you will after this, I’m done with petty arguments. Despite your character, I still find the majority of your content that I’ve read as truthful, enlightening, and a blessing. And so, while I will never ever bug you with a question ever again (or waste my time with you in doing so), I will most definitely still read and learn from you. Thanks!

    Blessings

    • There is no confusion apart from in your mind and I notice that your attitude is not improving, it’s only getting worse. Looks like I had you banged to rights from the get-go.

      Now tell me what happens at Baptism and the gifting of the Holy Spirit?

      • I’m not sure. I’ve been taught a few different things, but none of them seem correct. To me it seems like they did the best they could to explain it, without actually explaining it. One of the main explanations I’ve been taught was that it is simply a public declaration of faith. But like I said earlier, this does not satisfy my questions, and doesn’t seem right.

        Your baptism articles were next on my list and I will be sure to read them.

        Another thing, if my current understanding of salvation is wrong, explain to me how. I simply want to know and am open to it! I am not trying to get a “gotcha” on you or anything, I WANT TO LEARN, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

      • The Truth about Baptism:

        The old man DIES with Yashua Messiah in the watery grave and comes up out of water to receive The Holy Spirit and thereby becomes a new creation, sinless and perfect, and who can no longer sin, for the old man of sin is now dead, gone forever.

        I will therefore re-post these Holy Scriptures for you to meditate upon:

        1 John 3:6 (KJV) Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither known Him.

        1 John 3:9 (KJV) WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN; for HIS SEED remaineth in him: AND HE CANNOT SIN, BECAUSE HE IS BORN OF GOD.

        I trust you will not create a contradiction this time by misusing 1 John 1:8. I also trust that you read my article on 1 John 1.

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