To ‘Gain’ or ‘Win’ People For Christ or To ‘Save’ People For Christ? – 1 Corinthians 9:19-22

1 Corinthians 9:19-22 (KJV) For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. 20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under The Law; 21 To them that are without Law, as without Law, (being not without Law to God, but under the Law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without Law. 22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means SAVE some.

From Strong’s Concordance:

Gain – G2770κερδαίνω kerdaínō, ker-dah’-ee-no; – from G2771; to gain (literally or figuratively):—(get) gain, win.

Save – G4982σώζω sṓzō, sode’-zo; – from a primary σῶς sōs (contraction for obsolete σάος sáos, “safe”); to save, i.e. deliver or protect (literally or figuratively):—heal, preserve, save (self), do well, be (make) whole.

Now I have always found this passage of Scripture somewhat testing and difficult to understand, for we NEVER hear of the other Messengers employing such tactics when preaching the good news of The Kingdom of God. This, therefore, seems to be a speciality of Paul’s, and no one else’s. Furthermore, how do we square these verses in 1 Corinthians, with these verses in John’s Gospel and also, more importantly from Paul himself in Galatians 3:1-13?:

Galatians 3:1-13 (MCV) O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not attentively hearken to The Truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye The Holy Spirit by the works of The Law, or by the Hearing of Faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in The Holy Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that bestows to you The Holy Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth He it by the works of The Law, or by the Hearing of Faith? 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of Faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through Faith, preached before The Gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of Faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10 For as many as are of the works of The Law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in The Book of The Law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by The Law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by Faith. 12 And The Law is not of Faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of The Law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

John 6:44 (MCV) NO MAN can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me drag (draw) him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Draw – G1670 helkyo, hel-koo’-o; probably akin to G138; to drag (literally or figuratively):- draw. Compare G1667.

John 6:45 (KJV) It is written in The Prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of The Father, cometh unto me.

John 6:65 (MCV) And He said, Therefore said I unto you, That no MAN can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

So what is Paul talking about in 1 Corinthians 9:19-22? and let’s be clear, for Peter, Paul and the other Messengers NEVER saved anyone – period! – full stop! – end of! In their travels they preached the Kingdom of God Gospel Message and those that The Father was calling responded positively to that message and those that He was not calling (the majority) rejected it out of hand. Now Paul knew all this, for he was taught by Yashua Messiah Himself; he also admitted it:

Romans 8:7 (KJV) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to The Law of God, neither indeed can be.

Here we get further confirmation:

Acts 13:45-48 (MCV) But when the Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming. 46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that The Word of God should first have been spoken to you Canaanite Jews (posing and masquerading as God’s chosen people): but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles lost Israelite Nations and Nations of Mankind. 47 For so hath The Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a Light of the Lost Tribes of Israel and Nations of Mankind, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. 48 And when those Gentiles of the Lost Tribes of Israel and Nations of Mankind heard this, they were glad, and glorified The Word of The Lord: and as many as were appointed (called and chosen by The Father) to eternal life, believed. (See link No. 1 below)

OK so what we MUST deduce from all this Scriptural proof and evidence is that Paul did not mean he was attempting to gain anyone or win anyone to Yashua Messiah in a Spiritual sense or a regeneration sense, especially the Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews and yet he says he became as a Jew in order to ‘gain’ or ‘win’ them. So what did he mean by that?

From The Forerunner Commentary:

What Paul means in this passage becomes clear when we understand the sense and usage of two Greek words, those translated as “win” and “save.” In the evangelical (Mainstream Christian) world, both of them have taken on lives of their own, but with just a little digging, we will see that no contradiction lies between this passage and the numerous other clear statements.

The word translated as “win” is kerdaino (Strong’s #2770), and its basic meaning is “gain,” which is how it is typically translated. It means “to acquire by effort or investment.” It can mean “to earn” or “to make a profit.” The flipside is that it can also mean “to cause a loss not to occur.”” (Brackets mine)

Right, so from this we learn that Paul was attempting to come alongside these people in order to not offend them and alienate them clumsily or deliberately through over zealous teaching or preaching. To interpret it another way, “We can even be wrong when we’re right” if you get my drift. However, this was not an attempt by Paul to convert these people, for he knew that only The Father had the power to do that, and if he experience hostile opposition from them he would endeavour to meet them where they were at, in order to keep them alongside as best he could and not part as outright enemies.

Having cleared up that little niggle, we can now move on to a more controversial issue, that of Paul’s entering The Temple with the four vow takers and allegedly purifying himself ACCORDING TO THE LAW!!! as recorded in Acts 21:

Acts 21:18-20 (MCV) And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles The Lost Tribes of Israel and the Nations of Mankind by his ministry.

20 And when they heard it, they glorified The Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of The Law:

Now what’s going on here? for it looks like a little egotistic boasting is going on = my mission in Jerusalem is just as big as yours, so there! Does it not look as if James is salivating over all these Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews, who allegedly believe, and are still zealous of The Law! How does that work?

The other question that immediately comes to mind is how infiltrated the Church in Jerusalem had become by these Judaising mongrel dogs of the circumcision? It looks to me as if the Church no longer existed in Jerusalem, hence Paul was told by The Holy Spirit TWICE! NOT TO GO THERE!

Acts 21:4 (TAB) After looking up the disciples [in Tyre], we stayed there [with them] seven days; and they kept telling Paul through the [Holy] Spirit [a]not to set foot in Jerusalem.

Yet he stubbornly refuses, again, how does that work? In contrast, elsewhere in Acts, when The Holy Spirit guided they all followed, that is, not going on deeper into Asia. To me these are inconsistencies in terms of what we know about Paul from his letters.

We then get into all the nonsense of Paul’s purification in The Temple! WHAT!!? Is this what he meant by being all things to all people – especially appeasing the Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews? I find all this very hard to believe and yet it’s there in Acts allegedly! So let’s get some Scripture:

Acts 21:21 (KJV) And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

So these Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews already know what Paul teaches.

Now from the Amplified Bible to get a clearer understanding of what’s been written in the KJV.

Acts 21:21-24 (TAB) Now they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are living among the Gentiles to turn away from [the Law of] Moses, advising them not to circumcise their children or to live according to the [Mosaic] customs. 22 What then should be done? They will certainly hear that you have arrived. 23 Therefore do just what we tell you. We have four men who have taken a vow; 24 take these men and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses [for the temple offerings] so that they may shave their heads. Then everyone will know that there is nothing to the things they have been told about you, but that you yourself also follow and keep The Law.

So what do we have here? If this account is true, do I spy politicking? Do I spy lies, deceit and deception going on here? Oh let’s paint a false picture in order to placate these satanic Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews. How about Paul and his brothers doing a swift exit out of Jerusalem as fast their legs could carry them? why was that not suggested, or for them to go into hiding until the baying mob had gone home. Oh no we have to go through all these meaningless lying theatricals in order to ‘gain’ or ‘win’ some – NOT!

Acts 21:27 (TAB) When the seven days [required to complete the ritual] were almost over, [some] Jews from [the province of] Asia [Minor], caught sight of him in The Temple, and began to stir up the crowd, and they seized him,

What is Paul doing in The Temple when he knows full well that his presence their will be an act of provocation? What’s happened to the policy of gaining and winning some? Then we get confirmation of what I said to be correct:

Acts 21:30 (TAB) Then the whole city was provoked and confused, and the people rushed together. They seized Paul and dragged him out of the temple, and immediately the gates were closed.

Here’s another thing: Did Paul have a death wish? for he clearly stated that he had no fear of going up to Jerusalem, even if it meant death:

Acts 21:13 (TAB) Then Paul replied, “What are you doing, weeping and breaking my heart [like this]? For I am ready not only to be bound and imprisoned, but even to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.”

Then we get more confirmation:

Acts 21:27 (TAB) When the seven days [required to complete the ritual] were almost over, [some] Jews from [the province of] Asia [Minor], caught sight of him in the temple, and began to stir up the crowd, and they seized him,

So the stupid ritual was not even completed (an act of God IMO) before the Serpent Seed Jews caught sight of him in The Temple AGAIN! And grabbed him. How many acts of provocation was that? None of this makes any sense unless he deliberately wanted death at their hands.

Acts 21:28-29 (TAB) shouting, “Men of Israel, help us! This is the man who teaches all men everywhere against our people and The Law and this place. And besides, he has brought Greeks into The Temple and has defiled this holy place.” 29 For they had previously seen Trophimus the Ephesian in the city with Paul, and they assumed that he had brought the man into the temple [beyond the court of the Gentiles].

So not only does he provoke them by being there himself, he also brings a Greek brother along to Jerusalem as well, as you do when you’re aiming to ‘gain’ or ‘win’ a few Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews – much sarcasm here by the author. We therefore have yet more examples of blatant provocation on the part of Paul, and we can only assume that these were deliberate acts of provocation in order to bring about his untimely end. I cannot see this any other way unless you, my readers, have any other ideas.

In Yashua Messiah’s Holy name

Messenger Charles

PS Message for Thomas Howard: I trust this answers your silly comment about Paul’s (non-existent) fear of the Jews.

1. What Is The Word ‘GENTILE’ Doing in The Bible?:

Are You a 21st Century Foolish Galatian?

So how can anyone be a “Foolish Galatian” in the 21st century? They were just a first century phenomenon weren’t they? And only a serious problem for Paul and all the other Grace filled Assemblies in Galatia, surely? How can there be such a problem today? This must be nonsense, I hear you say. Well, it’s not as nonsensical as you might think and, in order to get a full understanding of what it’s all about, we need to take a look at Galatians to gain a better knowledge of what Paul was having to deal with.

We also need to know how the: “Justification through obedience to The Law” problem, for Grace filled and saved people, has never gone away. This vile evil concept is still with us today and do not err in your thinking, by making light of it:

Galatians 3:1 (KJV) O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not ‘obey’ (a corrupt translation – should read “you who have not been convinced of or persuaded by:-”) The Truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? (Brackets and italics mine)

Galatians 3:1 (Amplified Version) O you poor and silly and thoughtless and unreflecting and senseless Galatians! Who has fascinated or bewitched or cast a spell over you, unto whom—right before your very eyes—Jesus Christ (the Messiah) was openly and graphically set forth and portrayed as crucified?

From the Amplified Version we get a better insight into how dumb and stupid these people were and how dumb and stupid modern Galatian people are as well. Let’s look at verse 2 for our proof and evidence:

Galatians 3:2 (KJV) This only would I learn of you, Received ye The Spirit by the works of The Law, or by The Hearing of Faith?

Galatians 3:2 (Amplified Version) Let me ask you this one question: Did you receive The [Holy] Spirit as the result of obeying The Law and doing its works, or was it by hearing [The Message of The Gospel] and believing [it]? [Was it from observing a Law of Rituals or from a Message of Faith?]

So here’s a question for all you blasphemers out there who think you can be saved by OBEDIENCE to The Commandments: Did you receive the gift of The Holy Spirit as a result of obeying The Commandments or by hearing The Message of Faith and BELIEVING it?

Let’s put this another way: Did you do anything or contribute anything by way of obedience to The Commandments in order to receive this free undeserved gift? If you did, let’s hear about it ‘cos I love a good laugh at the expense of vain puffed-up fools who think they can earn their own salvation by obedience to The Commandments.

Paul then begins to cement his case:

Galatians 3:3 (KJV) Are ye so foolish? having begun in The (Holy) Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? (Brackets mine)

Here again we can see how these stupid people had begun in The Holy Spirit which means that they were called by The Father to His Son by The Holy Spirit, but then said: “No thanks, we know a better way!!” And here is the first example of this evil mind set:

John 6:65-66 And He said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. 66 From that many of His Learners (disciples) went back, and walked no more with Him.

These numb skull stiff necked people were just like The Galatians – they were precursors of those that Paul had to deal with later on. They thought they knew a better way, a way based upon their own initiative and motivation, their own efforts and their own vain imaginings of salvation under their own fuel and steam and not to mention their own terms and conditions. These bods had no use for The Holy Spirit, why would they, they were self-sufficient via their own righteousness through obedience to The Law – The Commandments.

Move forward a decade or so, to Paul’s time, and we then have these same kinds of vile wretched people who thought that The Holy Spirit’s saving Power was not enough i.e. NOT GOOD ENOUGH for them, can you believe that? So they re-invoked The Law – The Commandments, and obedience to same, in order to become ‘more righteous’ (chuckle, chuckle, chuckle) than their brothers and sisters living under Yashua Messiah’s Glorious Saving Grace being led by The Holy Spirit.

When we stop and think about this, it can only be summed up as gross mind-numbing blasphemous stupidity. What is even more mind-numbing and amazing is The Truth that these same types of stupid people are still with us today and yet, at the same time, profess to be Christians and/or followers of The Way – Yashua Messiah – how does that work!!??

Let’s be clear about this because elsewhere Paul makes it very plain:

Galatians 2:16 (KJV) Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of The Law, but by The Faith of Jesus Christ, even (so that) we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by The Faith of Christ, and not by the works of The Law: for by the works of The Law shall no flesh be justified. (Brackets and emphasis mine)

Now we must fully comprehend the points Yashua Messiah is explaining here, through Paul:

Point 1) No man is justified i.e. made righteous by the works of The Law. This includes obedience to The Ten Commandments. How do we know that? Easy, because Sabbath Day observance is no longer required under Grace. Everyday is now a Sabbath Day for those who have entered into Yashua Messiah’s Sabbath Rest = everyday is now a Sabbath Day for those who believe totally in Him for their salvation. See Hebrews Chapters 3 and 4 and then read it and internalise it.

Point 2) Mankind is justified only by Yashua Messiah’s Faith i.e. HIS FAITH, NOT OUR FAITH. Yashua Messiah gives us Faith, along with Grace, so that we can believe. Without the free gifts of His Faith and His Grace we would not be able to believe and then build our faith for rewards only upon that Foundation.

Point 3) We are then justified by His Faith and Paul makes that very clear with his statement: “That we might be justified by The Faith of Christ.” Get this clear in your minds, folks, and written on your hearts: YOUR FAITH does not feature in this arrangement, so YOUR FAITH does not feature at all in your salvation – period.

OK, let’s move on, because Paul now starts to lay it on the line:

Galatians 2:17 (KJV) But if seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves also were found to be sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? Let it not be!

So, if we claim to be justified in, through, and by Yashua Messiah’s Sacrifice, His Faith and His Grace and are also found to be sinners, what is going on? Can sinners ever be justified? Can sinners enter The Kingdom of God? Can blemished and spotted bridal gowns attend The Wedding Feast? Nay, God forbid. Hence Paul asks can Yashua Messiah be a pastor of sin? Yet what points out our sin? What reveals our sin? What condemns us for our sins? The Law and The Commandments reveal and point out our sins and then condemns us. So is Yashua Messiah a Pastor of The Law and thereby condemning us or is He a Pastor of Truth, Love, Mercy, Redemption, Forgiveness, Faith and Grace?

Let’s remind ourselves:

Romans 8:1 (KJV) There is therefore now no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus.

If there is now no condemnation for those IN Yashua Messiah where has The Law gone and what need is there for The Law and/or The Commanndments? The Law/Commandments or The Whole Law and the ensuing condemnation go hand in hand, as does The Law and obedience, so if there is now no more condemnation how can there be any Law over us? How can there be any need for obedience to The Law or The Commandments if they are no longer over us and condemning us?

Answers on the back of a postage stamp, thank you.

Brother Charles