….For MANY DO NOT!
And here is an example of their ignorance:
“You ignored the topic of imputation, which I brought up. Because our sins are imputed to Jesus is it not necessary for us to be actually sinless:”
Here we can see that he has actually explained what imputation achieves for us, that is, that it makes us sinless, for ALL our sins were imputed to Yashua Messiah who took them to the stake with Himself.
He then quotes 1 Peter 2:24:
“1 Peter 2:24: He himself bore our sins in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed.”
Here, he hasn’t even taken in what’s written: So that we might die to sins and live for righteousness! How does a sinner live for righteousness!? Surely only a sinless man/woman can live for righteousness.
“And the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us, with the result that God has given us the righteousness we need:”
Then he admits that we are sinless, because he states that Yashua Messiah’s righteousness is imputed to us. I mean was Yashua Messiah sinless or not and if His righteousness is imputed to us, does that not make us just like Him? And just as John made clear:
1 John 3:2-3 (MCV) Beloved, now are we the sons of Yah (God), and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is. And every man THAT HATH THIS HOPE IN HIM purifieth himself, EVEN AS HE IS PURE.
Now, if we are as pure as Yashua Messiah, through hope and belief in Him, are we not sinless? Or am I missing something!? I don’t think so.
One last piece of nonsense from this blind guide:
“Man does not need to reach a sinless state because God has taken care of the sin problem. That’s what Scripture teaches, so I reject your doctrine.”
See the contradiction in this mind boggling ignorant sentence? We as Christians do not need to reach a sinless state!!! How then does he think that he will enter The Kingdom of Yah (God), for Holy Scripture clearly states that sinners will remain outside The Kingdom, and will not be allowed in under any circumstances.
Galatians 5:19-21 (MCV) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit The Kingdom of Yah (God).
Therefore I will put it to him that unless we do “REACH A SINLESS STATE” (his words not mine) we will NEVER enter The Kingdom of Yah (God) – period – full stop – end of.
OK, with that necessary example of Spiritual blindness over, let’s press on with the article and learn what imputing means. So for a born of Yah (God) Christian, what does imputing mean? Well to find out we’ll need ALL the relevant New Testament Holy Scriptures, so let’s copy and paste them here.
First, the word imputed – 4 verses:
Romans 4:11 (MCV) And he (Abram) received The Sign of Circumcision, a Seal of The Righteousness of The Faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be The Patriarch of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
Romans 4:22-24 (KJV) And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. 23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; 24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on Him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Romans 5:13 (KJV) For until The Law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no Law.
James 2:23 (MCV) And The Scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of Yah (God).
Second, the word impute – 1 verse:
Romans 4:8 (KJV) Blessed is the man to whom The Lord will not impute sin.
Third, the word imputing – 1 verse:
2 Corinthians 5:19 (KJV) To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us The Word of reconciliation.
Next up we have the definition(s) of Imputed:
1. to reckon, count, compute, calculate, count over
2. to take into account, to make an account of
3. metaphysical – to pass to one’s account, to impute
4. a thing is reckoned as or to be something, i.e. as availing for or equivalent to
5. something, as having the like force and weight
6. to number among, reckon with
7. to reckon or account
8. to reckon inward, count up or weigh the reasons, to deliberate
9. by reckoning up all the reasons, to gather or infer
10. to consider, take into account, weigh, meditate on
11. to suppose, deem, judge
12. to determine, purpose, decide
Right, so there they are, all six verses, and the twelve definitions, and what do they tell us? and crucially, do they support Yashua Messiah’s teaching that once we’re born of God, we are then sinless and cannot sin, as made plain for us in 1 John 3 verses 6 and 9:
1 John 3:6 (KJV) Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither known Him.
1 John 3:9 (KJV) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His Seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
So let’s take the first verse that makes this clear:
Notice at the end of Romans 4:11 Yashua Messiah, through Paul, says: that righteousness might be imputed unto them also.
How can righteousness be imputed to someone who still sins? And, as an aside, here’s another question: How could The Holy Spirit reside within the body of a sinner, or the body of someone who still sins? that is, he has living sin, active and operational, not dead sin. I trust you all know that Baptism (full immersion) means we die with Yashua Messiah in watery grave, and are then raised anew to be indwelled by The Holy Spirit! If not, see link No. 1 below.
Romans 6:3-4 (MCV) Know ye not, that so many of us as were Baptised into Yashua Messiah (Jesus Christ) were Baptised into His death? 4 Therefore we are buried with Him by Baptism into death: that like as Yashua Messiah was raised up from the dead by The Glory of The Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
So does this “newness of life” in which regenerated Christians walk, include sinning? If so, then they must be frauds and counterfeiters, and they are still walking in their old ways, and have no newness of life.
In Romans 4:11 Paul is saying that non-Israelite mankind (the uncircumcised) could receive the same blessings as The Children of Israel, IF they’re called by The Father to His Son Yashua Messiah. Paul then firms it up in verses 22-24.
The next verse I will repost here:
Romans 5:13 (KJV) For until The Law, sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no Law.
Sin is not imputed when there is no Law! Hello!? Excuse me! So when is there no Law? When a son or daughter of Yah (God) is fully under His Grace. And when is a son or daughter of Yah (God) fully under His Grace? As soon as they are Baptised (full immersion) into Yashua Messiah’s (Jesus Christ’s) name alone, and gifted with The Holy Spirit.
Moreover, sin cannot be imputed to anyone that is no longer under The Law and condemned by The Law:
Romans 8:1 (MCV) There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Yashua Messiah (Christ Jesus).
So does this also mean that anyone who is no longer under condemnation must be a sinless new creation? I reckon.
Now let’s get a measure of this by this example:
Luke 1:5 (MCV) There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. 6 And they were both RIGHTEOUS before Yah (God), walking in all The Commandments and Ordinances of The Lord blameless.
So here we have two honourable people from The Tribe of Levi, with one a Levitical Priest, who were both unregenerated, so they were NOT born of Yah (God) and not indwelled by The Holy Spirit, and yet they were blameless = sinless, for they kept all the Commandments and Ordinances of The Lord.
Now, if an unregenerated man and woman can: “REACH A SINLESS STATE,” (to use buddy-boys slogan) how much more a called Christian that has been Baptised and Gifted with The Holy Spirit?
To back this up, Paul then says in Romans 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom The Lord will not impute sin.
Now why will Yashua Messiah not impute sin to a blessed man? That’s easy, because this blessed man is now a regenerated new man, indwelled by The Holy Spirit, so is Yashua Messiah going to impute sin to The Holy Spirit!!!!???? TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE!!!
However, the new man still has a DEAD BODY OF SIN – the occasional sins of which are not his sins anyway, hence The Father cannot see them, and these sins are covered by Yashua Messiah’s Grace. This is all belt and braces stuff we have going for us here, folks, for we cannot fail, unless we, horror of horrors, decide to walk away from Him completely, highly unlikely if we are True Christians, and as Peter made very plain:
John 6:65-68 (MCV) And He said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. 66 From that many of His ‘learners’ went back, and walked no more with Him. 67 Then said Jesus unto The Twelve, will ye also go away? 68 Then Simon Peter answered Him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast The Words of Eternal Life.
I trust you now have a good grasp of this imputing of sins topic. Any questions please leave a comment.
In Yashua Messiah’s Holy name
Messenger Charles
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