To ‘Gain’ or ‘Win’ People For Christ or To ‘Save’ People For Christ? – 1 Corinthians 9:19-22

1 Corinthians 9:19-22 (KJV) For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. 20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under The Law; 21 To them that are without Law, as without Law, (being not without Law to God, but under the Law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without Law. 22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means SAVE some.

From Strong’s Concordance:

Gain – G2770κερδαίνω kerdaínō, ker-dah’-ee-no; – from G2771; to gain (literally or figuratively):—(get) gain, win.

Save – G4982σώζω sṓzō, sode’-zo; – from a primary σῶς sōs (contraction for obsolete σάος sáos, “safe”); to save, i.e. deliver or protect (literally or figuratively):—heal, preserve, save (self), do well, be (make) whole.

Now I have always found this passage of Scripture somewhat testing and difficult to understand, for we NEVER hear of the other Messengers employing such tactics when preaching the good news of The Kingdom of God. This, therefore, seems to be a speciality of Paul’s, and no one else’s. Furthermore, how do we square these verses in 1 Corinthians, with these verses in John’s Gospel and also, more importantly from Paul himself in Galatians 3:1-13?:

Galatians 3:1-13 (MCV) O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not attentively hearken to The Truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye The Holy Spirit by the works of The Law, or by the Hearing of Faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in The Holy Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that bestows to you The Holy Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth He it by the works of The Law, or by the Hearing of Faith? 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of Faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through Faith, preached before The Gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of Faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10 For as many as are of the works of The Law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in The Book of The Law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by The Law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by Faith. 12 And The Law is not of Faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of The Law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

John 6:44 (MCV) NO MAN can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me drag (draw) him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Draw – G1670 helkyo, hel-koo’-o; probably akin to G138; to drag (literally or figuratively):- draw. Compare G1667.

John 6:45 (KJV) It is written in The Prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of The Father, cometh unto me.

John 6:65 (MCV) And He said, Therefore said I unto you, That no MAN can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

So what is Paul talking about in 1 Corinthians 9:19-22? and let’s be clear, for Peter, Paul and the other Messengers NEVER saved anyone – period! – full stop! – end of! In their travels they preached the Kingdom of God Gospel Message and those that The Father was calling responded positively to that message and those that He was not calling (the majority) rejected it out of hand. Now Paul knew all this, for he was taught by Yashua Messiah Himself; he also admitted it:

Romans 8:7 (KJV) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to The Law of God, neither indeed can be.

Here we get further confirmation:

Acts 13:45-48 (MCV) But when the Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming. 46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that The Word of God should first have been spoken to you Canaanite Jews (posing and masquerading as God’s chosen people): but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles lost Israelite Nations and Nations of Mankind. 47 For so hath The Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a Light of the Lost Tribes of Israel and Nations of Mankind, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. 48 And when those Gentiles of the Lost Tribes of Israel and Nations of Mankind heard this, they were glad, and glorified The Word of The Lord: and as many as were appointed (called and chosen by The Father) to eternal life, believed. (See link No. 1 below)

OK so what we MUST deduce from all this Scriptural proof and evidence is that Paul did not mean he was attempting to gain anyone or win anyone to Yashua Messiah in a Spiritual sense or a regeneration sense, especially the Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews and yet he says he became as a Jew in order to ‘gain’ or ‘win’ them. So what did he mean by that?

From The Forerunner Commentary:

What Paul means in this passage becomes clear when we understand the sense and usage of two Greek words, those translated as “win” and “save.” In the evangelical (Mainstream Christian) world, both of them have taken on lives of their own, but with just a little digging, we will see that no contradiction lies between this passage and the numerous other clear statements.

The word translated as “win” is kerdaino (Strong’s #2770), and its basic meaning is “gain,” which is how it is typically translated. It means “to acquire by effort or investment.” It can mean “to earn” or “to make a profit.” The flipside is that it can also mean “to cause a loss not to occur.”” (Brackets mine)

Right, so from this we learn that Paul was attempting to come alongside these people in order to not offend them and alienate them clumsily or deliberately through over zealous teaching or preaching. To interpret it another way, “We can even be wrong when we’re right” if you get my drift. However, this was not an attempt by Paul to convert these people, for he knew that only The Father had the power to do that, and if he experience hostile opposition from them he would endeavour to meet them where they were at, in order to keep them alongside as best he could and not part as outright enemies.

Having cleared up that little niggle, we can now move on to a more controversial issue, that of Paul’s entering The Temple with the four vow takers and allegedly purifying himself ACCORDING TO THE LAW!!! as recorded in Acts 21:

Acts 21:18-20 (MCV) And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles The Lost Tribes of Israel and the Nations of Mankind by his ministry.

20 And when they heard it, they glorified The Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of The Law:

Now what’s going on here? for it looks like a little egotistic boasting is going on = my mission in Jerusalem is just as big as yours, so there! Does it not look as if James is salivating over all these Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews, who allegedly believe, and are still zealous of The Law! How does that work?

The other question that immediately comes to mind is how infiltrated the Church in Jerusalem had become by these Judaising mongrel dogs of the circumcision? It looks to me as if the Church no longer existed in Jerusalem, hence Paul was told by The Holy Spirit TWICE! NOT TO GO THERE!

Acts 21:4 (TAB) After looking up the disciples [in Tyre], we stayed there [with them] seven days; and they kept telling Paul through the [Holy] Spirit [a]not to set foot in Jerusalem.

Yet he stubbornly refuses, again, how does that work? In contrast, elsewhere in Acts, when The Holy Spirit guided they all followed, that is, not going on deeper into Asia. To me these are inconsistencies in terms of what we know about Paul from his letters.

We then get into all the nonsense of Paul’s purification in The Temple! WHAT!!? Is this what he meant by being all things to all people – especially appeasing the Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews? I find all this very hard to believe and yet it’s there in Acts allegedly! So let’s get some Scripture:

Acts 21:21 (KJV) And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

So these Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews already know what Paul teaches.

Now from the Amplified Bible to get a clearer understanding of what’s been written in the KJV.

Acts 21:21-24 (TAB) Now they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are living among the Gentiles to turn away from [the Law of] Moses, advising them not to circumcise their children or to live according to the [Mosaic] customs. 22 What then should be done? They will certainly hear that you have arrived. 23 Therefore do just what we tell you. We have four men who have taken a vow; 24 take these men and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses [for the temple offerings] so that they may shave their heads. Then everyone will know that there is nothing to the things they have been told about you, but that you yourself also follow and keep The Law.

So what do we have here? If this account is true, do I spy politicking? Do I spy lies, deceit and deception going on here? Oh let’s paint a false picture in order to placate these satanic Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews. How about Paul and his brothers doing a swift exit out of Jerusalem as fast their legs could carry them? why was that not suggested, or for them to go into hiding until the baying mob had gone home. Oh no we have to go through all these meaningless lying theatricals in order to ‘gain’ or ‘win’ some – NOT!

Acts 21:27 (TAB) When the seven days [required to complete the ritual] were almost over, [some] Jews from [the province of] Asia [Minor], caught sight of him in The Temple, and began to stir up the crowd, and they seized him,

What is Paul doing in The Temple when he knows full well that his presence their will be an act of provocation? What’s happened to the policy of gaining and winning some? Then we get confirmation of what I said to be correct:

Acts 21:30 (TAB) Then the whole city was provoked and confused, and the people rushed together. They seized Paul and dragged him out of the temple, and immediately the gates were closed.

Here’s another thing: Did Paul have a death wish? for he clearly stated that he had no fear of going up to Jerusalem, even if it meant death:

Acts 21:13 (TAB) Then Paul replied, “What are you doing, weeping and breaking my heart [like this]? For I am ready not only to be bound and imprisoned, but even to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.”

Then we get more confirmation:

Acts 21:27 (TAB) When the seven days [required to complete the ritual] were almost over, [some] Jews from [the province of] Asia [Minor], caught sight of him in the temple, and began to stir up the crowd, and they seized him,

So the stupid ritual was not even completed (an act of God IMO) before the Serpent Seed Jews caught sight of him in The Temple AGAIN! And grabbed him. How many acts of provocation was that? None of this makes any sense unless he deliberately wanted death at their hands.

Acts 21:28-29 (TAB) shouting, “Men of Israel, help us! This is the man who teaches all men everywhere against our people and The Law and this place. And besides, he has brought Greeks into The Temple and has defiled this holy place.” 29 For they had previously seen Trophimus the Ephesian in the city with Paul, and they assumed that he had brought the man into the temple [beyond the court of the Gentiles].

So not only does he provoke them by being there himself, he also brings a Greek brother along to Jerusalem as well, as you do when you’re aiming to ‘gain’ or ‘win’ a few Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews – much sarcasm here by the author. We therefore have yet more examples of blatant provocation on the part of Paul, and we can only assume that these were deliberate acts of provocation in order to bring about his untimely end. I cannot see this any other way unless you, my readers, have any other ideas.

In Yashua Messiah’s Holy name

Messenger Charles

PS Message for Thomas Howard: I trust this answers your silly comment about Paul’s (non-existent) fear of the Jews.

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Ananias and Sapphira – How We Can Know This is a False or a Fake Story

Once again this is an overdue article and the reason being is because I didn’t complete my “Exposing The Trinity Lie” series of articles, so it is my mistake. However, just recently, I have had much noisy opposition to my Truthful teaching on the lying shell game scam known as the trinity dogma, otherwise known as Tertullian’s conjuring trick called The Trinitas circa 200 AD.

Here is one of their favourite erroneous mantras as thrown at me the other day:

“The Holy Spirit is a person who can be grieved, can be lied to, etc. (Eph 4:30, Acts 5:3).”

Now the grieving of The Holy Spirit nonsense I deal with here:

https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/can-christians-grieve-the-holy-spirit/

And the ‘Holy Spirit being lied to’ I will deal with in this article, but first let’s get the story copied here so we are familiar with the WHOLE story and have ALL the details:

Acts 5:1-11 (KJV) But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. 5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great FEAR came on all them that heard these things. 6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him. 7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. 8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much. 9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. 10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband. 11 And great FEAR came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things. (Emphasis mine)

Now before I analyse the above passage of so called Scripture I will follow the same procedure that I employed in my article entitled: “Romans 13:1-7 Do Sons of God Have To Obey Secular or Religious Authorities?”

This means I will quote the overall contextual theme of Acts 4 and Acts 5 and show how this, off topic, alleged Scriptural story was added for very different reasons than you may at first realise. Here are the verses from the end of Acts 4 and, notice, how encouraging, positive and upbeat it all is:

Acts 4:32-37 (KJV) And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of The Lord Jesus: and Great Grace was upon them all. 34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. 36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, 37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.

Continuing I will now add Acts 5 from verse 12:

Acts 5:12-14 (KJV) And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon’s porch. 13 And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified them. 14 And believers were the more added to The Lord, multitudes both of men and women.) (Emphasis mine)

Notice how the positive story line continues and how the people are elated with joy and gladness and all are likeminded and of one accord. So what is this very negative fear based story of Ananias and Sapphira doing right there in the middle of this very Spiritually uplifting narrative? (Please note, I will give special attention to verse 13 at the end of this article.)

Notice, too, how the same trick has been played as they did in Romans 13:1-7 by breaking up the continuum of the positive story line in order to shove in their agenda fuelled lies.

Now for some questioning analysis of this suspect story:

1) Who were these two people? For in Adam Clarke’s Commentary he states this:

“’But a certain man named Ananias’ – Of these unhappy people we have no farther account than what is recorded here. In reference to birth, connections, etc., their names are written in the dust. The import of his name, Chananiyah, the Grace or Mercy of The Lord, agrees very ill with his conduct.”

So someone whose name means: “Grace or Mercy of The Lord” is mercilessly struck down dead by The Lord for telling a lie? Do I sense some sort of mocking going on here by the authors of this evil corruption?

Moreover we have two Biblical nobodies, not previously mentioned anywhere else in the Holy Scriptures, and there they are, out of the blue, and also known by name, just for the recording of this very negative story. All very handy and convenient eh? Too convenient for my liking!!!

2) Look at how the authors stole, in copycat fashion, the “land or property” subject matter from chapter 4. This means that they were too lazy and unimaginative to make up something original in order to try and make their lying point, as we shall see:

Acts 4:34-37 (KJV) Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. 36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, 37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet. (Emphasis mine)

3) “But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost?”

OK, now in my article “Exposing The Trinity Lie Parts 1-5” I prove without a shadow of doubt that The Holy Spirit (here called The Holy Ghost) is not a personage of The Godhead but, rather, is the Living Power or Living Force of The Godhead, a Living Force that does things like this:

“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a Force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this Force the existence of a conscious and Intelligent Mind. This Mind is the Matrix of all matter.” (Emphasis mine)

– Professor Max Planck, the father of quantum physics.

So here we have a qualified scientist describing The Holy Spirit in action, without actually stating it out loud and, notice, that he says “BEHIND THIS FORCE there is an Intelligent Mind.” So behind The Holy Spirit there is The Godhead of The Father and The Son. That means, folks, from this Truthful scientific perspective that The Holy Spirit is NOT A PERSON of a trinity but a FORCE!!

Moreover, and with this Truth in mind, how could the Holy Spirit be lied to if the Holy Spirit is a FORCE and not a person? It can’t, and that’s it. So if nothing else this makes Acts 5 verse 3 a blatant corruption and a LIE!!!! and the whole story a fraud.

4) Peter sits in judgement!! At what point were the Messengers (Apostles) given the power or the authority to sit in judgement over their brothers and sisters, or the power to interrogate them like a Communist KGB officer?

We know very little about the travels and experiences of the other Messengers (Apostles) but we do know much about Paul. Now where do we find him anywhere giving his brothers and sisters the third degree type inquisition re their sins? We don’t, other than him telling us that certain members had to be handed back to Satan for blaspheming, that is, teaching a satanic false gospel against Yashua Messiah’s Gospel Message that Paul was teaching, which is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. Were they struck down dead?

Now here’s another thing. How well does this blatant nonsense story fit in with the other Papist LIE of Peter being a Pope – a fake in authority? Very well indeed is the answer to that!! Coincidence anyone?

5) “Why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.”

Look at that for another LIE!!! How did these dissembling authors get away with this? How did Ananias and Sapphira not lie unto men? If this story is true then they lied to both God and men. Did their brothers and sisters not believe that they had given all the proceeds of the sale of their property to be shared? If so, then Ananias and Sapphira lied to them as well as God. So what’s this erroneous nonsense verse all about? Answer: building up the emotional crap is what it’s all about, in order to make it a more emotionally convincing story. However, it backfired, and like all liars they always shoot themselves in the feet at the same time. This verse is pure arrogant embellishment.

6) “And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great FEAR came on all them that heard these things.”

RIGHT!!! Now we get to the rub!! For this is the REAL REASON for the addition of this satanic evil corruption – FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! Oh how the Papist illegitimates love to put FEAR into their duped lemming followers. Without FEAR and mind numbing superstition the Cainite-Judeo-Christian religion would cease to exist.

Always remember folks that FEAR is the OPPOSITE OF LOVE. People KILL what they FEAR. FEAR is the breeding ground for mindless uncontrolled HATE. So why would Yashua Messiah allow such wickedness to be included in His Word? He didn’t, evil people with an evil agenda added it to serve that evil religious agenda – the Cainite-Judeo-Christian religious agenda.

Again, compare this narrative with the positive verses each side of it. Its sole purpose is to negate the uplifting verses that go before it and after it and, of course, to add in the nonsense that The Holy Spirit can be lied to. All this, when Yashua Messiah knows what we are going to do before we even do it, and acts as our Advocate on the rare occasions that might be necessary.

7) Were Ananias and Sapphira Born Again, that is, were they born of God? If so, then they could not sin:

1 John 3:9 (KJV) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 3:6 (KJV) Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither known Him.

1 John 3:3 (KJV) And every man that hath this hope in Him purify himself, even as He is pure.

This issue, backed by the above Holy Scriptures, raises a massive point in confounding this vile eleven verse contamination of The Holy Scriptures. Make no mistake, folks, because if these two characters WERE BORN OF GOD there is no way they would have done what they were accused of doing.

Romans 8:4-5 (KJV) That the righteousness of The Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after The Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after The Spirit the things of The Spirit.

The question that now needs to be asked is whether Ananias and Sapphira were Spirit led Christians or not? If they were, there is no way they would have done what they are allegedly accused of doing, that is, they would not have been walking after the flesh. However, if they were not saved then the flesh is all that they could have served and their behaviour completely understandable.

Therefore, there is no way Peter would have dealt with them as he did, if they were unsaved and minding the things of the flesh. So yet again we have more solid gold proof that this story is a lying fabrication and a satanic corruption by addition.

Furthermore, whoever added this passage had no understanding of what it means to be born of God – a new creation so it had to be written by someone with a Cainite-Judeo-Christian religious mindset, not a Christian Spiritual mindset.

8) And great FEAR came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

LOL and then finally and, for ‘good’ measure, they bung in another verse of FEAR MONGERING, but not just the congregation of God this time but also those outside that heard of this event. Just what you need to give The Church a loving Christian reputation.

Well, let’s face it, when you’re building a house of cards like the Babylonian Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion with hoped for billions of deluded serfs and slaves as members, in the future, how do you hold them in captivity without an unhealthy dollop of FEAR!!!???? Think of all that lovely dosh you will lose without the FEAR!!!

9) For the final point I will return to verse 13 of Acts 5 “And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified them.”

Now why did the rest (whoever they were) not dare (durst not) to join the congregation of God and yet they magnified them – praised them? Was it because of the alleged fearful episode that was supposed to have taken place or because they were not prepared to sell all that they had and lay it at the Messenger’s feet to be given to the needy? Yet at the same time were very impressed by such overwhelming acts of kindness and generosity and praised them for doing so? The next verse gives us the answer:

Acts 5:14 (KJV) And believers were the more added to The Lord, multitudes both of men and women.

Again this verse proves that the events of Acts 5:1-11 NEVER TOOK PLACE and the whole episode is a lying fabrication made up by the founding fathers of the Hellenised counterfeit Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion.