To ‘Gain’ or ‘Win’ People For Christ or To ‘Save’ People For Christ? – 1 Corinthians 9:19-22

1 Corinthians 9:19-22 (KJV) For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. 20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under The Law; 21 To them that are without Law, as without Law, (being not without Law to God, but under the Law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without Law. 22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means SAVE some.

From Strong’s Concordance:

Gain – G2770 – κερδαίνω kerdaínō, ker-dah’-ee-no; – from G2771; to gain (literally or figuratively):—(get) gain, win.

Save – G4982 – σώζω sṓzō, sode’-zo; – from a primary σῶς sōs (contraction for obsolete σάος sáos, “safe”); to save, i.e. deliver or protect (literally or figuratively):—heal, preserve, save (self), do well, be (make) whole.

Now I have always found this passage of Scripture somewhat testing and difficult to understand, for we NEVER hear of the other Messengers employing such tactics when preaching the good news of The Kingdom of God. This, therefore, seems to be a speciality of Paul’s, and no one else’s. Furthermore, how do we square these verses in 1 Corinthians, with these verses in John’s Gospel and also, more importantly from Paul himself in Galatians 3:1-13?:

Galatians 3:1-13 (MCV) O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not attentively hearken to The Truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye The Holy Spirit by the works of The Law, or by the Hearing of Faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in The Holy Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that bestows to you The Holy Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth He it by the works of The Law, or by the Hearing of Faith? 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of Faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through Faith, preached before The Gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of Faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10 For as many as are of the works of The Law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in The Book of The Law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by The Law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by Faith. 12 And The Law is not of Faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of The Law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

John 6:44 (MCV) NO MAN can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me drag (draw) him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Draw – G1670 helkyo, hel-koo’-o; probably akin to G138; to drag (literally or figuratively):- draw. Compare G1667.

John 6:45 (KJV) It is written in The Prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of The Father, cometh unto me.

John 6:65 (MCV) And He said, Therefore said I unto you, That no MAN can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

So what is Paul talking about in 1 Corinthians 9:19-22? and let’s be clear, for Peter, Paul and the other Messengers NEVER saved anyone – period! – full stop! – end of! In their travels they preached the Kingdom of God Gospel Message and those that The Father was calling responded positively to that message and those that He was not calling (the majority) rejected it out of hand. Now Paul knew all this, for he was taught by Yashua Messiah Himself; he also admitted it:

Romans 8:7 (KJV) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to The Law of God, neither indeed can be.

Here we get further confirmation:

Acts 13:45-48 (MCV) But when the Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming. 46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that The Word of God should first have been spoken to you Canaanite Jews (posing and masquerading as God’s chosen people): but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles lost Israelite Nations and Nations of Mankind. 47 For so hath The Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a Light of the Lost Tribes of Israel and Nations of Mankind, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. 48 And when those Gentiles of the Lost Tribes of Israel and Nations of Mankind heard this, they were glad, and glorified The Word of The Lord: and as many as were appointed (called and chosen by The Father) to eternal life, believed. (See link No. 1 below)

OK so what we MUST deduce from all this Scriptural proof and evidence is that Paul did not mean he was attempting to gain anyone or win anyone to Yashua Messiah in a Spiritual sense or a regeneration sense, especially the Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews and yet he says he became as a Jew in order to ‘gain’ or ‘win’ them. So what did he mean by that?

From The Forerunner Commentary:

“What Paul means in this passage becomes clear when we understand the sense and usage of two Greek words, those translated as “win” and “save.” In the evangelical (Mainstream Christian) world, both of them have taken on lives of their own, but with just a little digging, we will see that no contradiction lies between this passage and the numerous other clear statements.

“The word translated as “win” is kerdaino (Strong’s #2770), and its basic meaning is “gain,” which is how it is typically translated. It means “to acquire by effort or investment.” It can mean “to earn” or “to make a profit.” The flipside is that it can also mean “to cause a loss not to occur.”” (Brackets mine)

Right, so from this we learn that Paul was attempting to come alongside these people in order to not offend them and alienate them clumsily or deliberately through over zealous teaching or preaching. To interpret it another way, “We can even be wrong when we’re right” if you get my drift. However, this was not an attempt by Paul to convert these people, for he knew that only The Father had the power to do that, and if he experience hostile opposition from them he would endeavour to meet them where they were at, in order to keep them alongside as best he could and not part as outright enemies.

Having cleared up that little niggle, we can now move on to a more controversial issue, that of Paul’s entering The Temple with the four vow takers and allegedly purifying himself ACCORDING TO THE LAW!!! as recorded in Acts 21:

Acts 21:18-20 (MCV) And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles The Lost Tribes of Israel and the Nations of Mankind by his ministry.

20 And when they heard it, they glorified The Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of The Law:

Now what’s going on here? for it looks like a little egotistic boasting is going on = my mission in Jerusalem is just as big as yours, so there! Does it not look as if James is salivating over all these Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews, who allegedly believe, and are still zealous of The Law! How does that work?

The other question that immediately comes to mind is how infiltrated the Church in Jerusalem had become by these Judaising mongrel dogs of the circumcision? It looks to me as if the Church no longer existed in Jerusalem, hence Paul was told by The Holy Spirit TWICE! NOT TO GO THERE!

Acts 21:4 (TAB) After looking up the disciples [in Tyre], we stayed there [with them] seven days; and they kept telling Paul through the [Holy] Spirit [a]not to set foot in Jerusalem.

Yet he stubbornly refuses, again, how does that work? In contrast, elsewhere in Acts, when The Holy Spirit guided they all followed, that is, not going on deeper into Asia. To me these are inconsistencies in terms of what we know about Paul from his letters.

We then get into all the nonsense of Paul’s purification in The Temple! WHAT!!? Is this what he meant by being all things to all people – especially appeasing the Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews? I find all this very hard to believe and yet it’s there in Acts allegedly! So let’s get some Scripture:

Acts 21:21 (KJV) And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

So these Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews already know what Paul teaches.

Now from the Amplified Bible to get a clearer understanding of what’s been written in the KJV.

Acts 21:21-24 (TAB) Now they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are living among the Gentiles to turn away from [the Law of] Moses, advising them not to circumcise their children or to live according to the [Mosaic] customs. 22 What then should be done? They will certainly hear that you have arrived. 23 Therefore do just what we tell you. We have four men who have taken a vow; 24 take these men and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses [for the temple offerings] so that they may shave their heads. Then everyone will know that there is nothing to the things they have been told about you, but that you yourself also follow and keep The Law.

So what do we have here? If this account is true, do I spy politicking? Do I spy lies, deceit and deception going on here? Oh let’s paint a false picture in order to placate these satanic Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews. How about Paul and his brothers doing a swift exit out of Jerusalem as fast their legs could carry them? why was that not suggested, or for them to go into hiding until the baying mob had gone home. Oh no we have to go through all these meaningless lying theatricals in order to ‘gain’ or ‘win’ some – NOT!

Acts 21:27 (TAB) When the seven days [required to complete the ritual] were almost over, [some] Jews from [the province of] Asia [Minor], caught sight of him in The Temple, and began to stir up the crowd, and they seized him,

What is Paul doing in The Temple when he knows full well that his presence their will be an act of provocation? What’s happened to the policy of gaining and winning some? Then we get confirmation of what I said to be correct:

Acts 21:30 (TAB) Then the whole city was provoked and confused, and the people rushed together. They seized Paul and dragged him out of the temple, and immediately the gates were closed.

Here’s another thing: Did Paul have a death wish? for he clearly stated that he had no fear of going up to Jerusalem, even if it meant death:

Acts 21:13 (TAB) Then Paul replied, “What are you doing, weeping and breaking my heart [like this]? For I am ready not only to be bound and imprisoned, but even to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.”

Then we get more confirmation:

Acts 21:27 (TAB) When the seven days [required to complete the ritual] were almost over, [some] Jews from [the province of] Asia [Minor], caught sight of him in the temple, and began to stir up the crowd, and they seized him,

So the stupid ritual was not even completed (an act of God IMO) before the Serpent Seed Jews caught sight of him in The Temple AGAIN! And grabbed him. How many acts of provocation was that? None of this makes any sense unless he deliberately wanted death at their hands.

Acts 21:28-29 (TAB) shouting, “Men of Israel, help us! This is the man who teaches all men everywhere against our people and The Law and this place. And besides, he has brought Greeks into The Temple and has defiled this holy place.” 29 For they had previously seen Trophimus the Ephesian in the city with Paul, and they assumed that he had brought the man into the temple [beyond the court of the Gentiles].

So not only does he provoke them by being there himself, he also brings a Greek brother along to Jerusalem as well, as you do when you’re aiming to ‘gain’ or ‘win’ a few Serpent Seed Canaanite Jews – much sarcasm here by the author. We therefore have yet more examples of blatant provocation on the part of Paul, and we can only assume that these were deliberate acts of provocation in order to bring about his untimely end. I cannot see this any other way unless you, my readers, have any other ideas.

In Yashua Messiah’s Holy name

Messenger Charles

PS Message for Thomas Howard: I trust this answers your silly comment about Paul’s (non-existent) fear of the Jews.

1. What Is The Word ‘GENTILE’ Doing in The Bible?:

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Exposing a Satanic REPROBATE ILLEGITIMATE Called Jim – Parts 1 & 2

Now this article will give me no pleasure at all, but it MUST be done so as warn potential newbies to the Faith, that is, those The Father is calling to His Son Yashua Messiah (Jesus Christ) at this moment in time or, in the future. Make no mistake this vile evil creature is like a roaring lion for Satan, seeking out those that he can devour with his filthy lies and stinking perversions of the Holy Scriptures.

So let’s begin with his first comment which was in reply to my article entitled: “For by GRACE are Ye Saved Through FAITH; AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES: It is The Gift of God – Ephesians 2:8” (see link below)

Here is his first judgemental diatribe:

“If you’re trying to be saved or stay saved, you’re probably not saved, nor do you have the assurance of eternal life that the true gospel gives to all who believe it. The narrow path is the path of grace and faith for all who have received God’s unspeakable gift.”

Here the blind idiot is talking about being saved and yet hasn’t a clue about how one is saved, that is, through water Baptism and the gifting of the Holy Spirit which he satanically denies is necessary. He then quotes a Scripture and writes a load of perverted erroneous drivel after it:

2 Corinthians 9:15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.
“A gift is free with no strings attached or it’s not a gift.”

Who says a free gift cannot come with certain terms and conditions? Is The New Covenant a contract or not? If there is a new contract in place, do contracts not require certain obligations on both parties within that contract?

If something is free all it means is that there is no financial charge for it, no financial obligations to be a recipient of it, that’s all.

Then we get this which, surprisingly, is correct:

“One of the worst doctrines of the devil is to redefine ”repentance” as a turning from sin, which immediately negates the gift by requiring you to do something (works) to be saved.

“Repentance doesn’t mean a turning from sin. “Metanoia” is the Greek word translated as “Repentance” and it means a change of mind:

“Meta=Change; Noia=Mind

“STRONGS NT 3341: μετάνοια – μετάνοια – μετανοίας, ἡ (μετανοέω), a change of mind:”

Nowhere do I teach that repentance is turning from sin. Repentance is a change of attitude towards sin – a desire not to sin and that is what I teach, which is a change of mind, so here the judgemental ignoramus has failed to read my other articles and LEARN! and has jumped straight in shouting off his big arrogant mouth.

His next load of BS:

“When you believe the gospel and trust Christ as your Savior, you have repented, and you have eternal life, now and forever. You should know you have eternal life, now.”

100% WRONG!!! No one has Eternal Life until they have DIED IN THE WATERY GRAVE OF BAPTISM WITH YASHUA MESSIAH AND ARE THEN LIFTED OUT OF THE WATER AND GIFTED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND MADE A NEW MAN OR WOMAN = A NEW CREATION!!

The ‘old man’ must DIE FIRST before he can put on the ‘new man’ which Paul confirms for us here:

Romans 6:4-6 (MCV) Therefore we are buried with Him by Baptism into death: (the watery grave) that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the Glory of The Father, even so we also should walk in newness of Life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death, we shall be also in the likeness of His resurrection, (raised up out of the Baptismal pool): 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with Him, (in the watery grave) that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

NOTICE: The old man or the old man’s body of sin is DESTROYED! How is it destroyed? BY BAPTISM!!! Now tell me how the Holy Spirit could live with a LIVE BODY OF SIN? Because this is the idea that this blaspheming dog is putting forward.

And again from Paul:

Ephesians 4:22-24 (MCV) That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, (only Baptised people have an old man) which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; 23 And be renewed in The Spirit of your mind (be gifted with The Holy Spirit at Baptism); 24 And that ye put on the new man (only Baptised and Holy Spirit gifted people have a new man), which after God is created in righteousness and True Holiness.

Listen folks, do not be deceived by this lying illegitimate, for there is no other way a man or woman can be saved/born of God (born again) just as Yashua Messiah told Nicodemus:

John 3:3-5 (MCV) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again (born of God), he cannot see The Kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto Him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of The Holy Spirit, (BAPTISM) HE CANNOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD!!

There it is, and fail to understand Yashua Messiah’s instructions at your peril! (see links below)

He then starts creating satanic contradictions and/or twisting the Holy Scriptures in order to build his strawman non-gospel and non argument:

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

No one can believe on the name of the son of God UNLESS they are born of God and that can only happen once they are Baptised and gifted with The Holy Spirit!

He then starts JUDGING with an arrogant vengeance which is breathtaking:

“It’s so important to get the gospel right or you could end up in hell. Paul threatened damnation twice (Gal 1:8-9) to anyone/thing who tried to add works to the gospel of grace he received directly from the Lord Jesus Christ.”

This stupid know-nothing idiot couldn’t get The Gospel right if it were a piece of 4×2 whacking him across the forehead!

Galatians 1:8-9 (KJV) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

This blasphemer should look in a mirror and read those Scriptures to himself.

Pay attention, dear people, because what this evil dog is doing is classifying the act of Baptism and the gifting of The Holy Spirit as WORKS!! Can you believe it? You’d better ‘cos that’s exactly what he is saying and doing.

Notice the Holy Scriptures he uses in order to build his satanic strawman doctrine:

Romans 4:4 (KJV) Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

“If you try to add your works to be saved or to prove you’re saved, you negate God’s grace and you go to hell. God will not be a debtor to any man, we can receive salvation as His free gift or not at all.”

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Acts 8:15-17 (MCV) Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Spirit: 16 (For as yet it was fallen upon none of them: only they were Baptised in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

The above crucial event is recorded for us so that there is no confusion regarding Baptism and gifting of The Holy Spirit as the ONLY WAY a newbie to the Faith can be born of God (born again) and SAVED! Even if there is a delay between Baptism and Holy Spirit gifting, as was the case for the Twelve Learners (disciples)

Right, moving on, here we can see the stupidity of this numbskull’s ideas because he uses Paul as an example in a pathetic attempt to make his non-case for the no need for Baptism:

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

“The Apostle Paul received the gospel directly from the Lord Jesus Christ and not from any man per Gal 1:12.”

Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

OK, I will copy here the narrative of Saul’s calling on the road to Damascus and please read it right to the end:

Acts 9:1-18 (MCV) And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples Learners of The Lord, went unto the High Priest, 2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this Way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem. 3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a Light from heaven: 4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. 6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. 7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. 8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus. 9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink. 10 And there was a certain disciple Learner at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord. 11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth, 12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight. 13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy Saints at Jerusalem: 14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name. 15 But The Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles the Nations, and kings and The Children of Israel: 16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake. 17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Spirit. 18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was BAPTISED.

So what we can easily deduce from this passage of Scripture is that Baptism WAS necessary for Saul, but it’s not necessary for this self-righteous jackass called Jim. He thinks he can waltz straight into The Kingdom of God with his unbaptised LIVE BODY OF SIN. He must be dumber than dumber. LOL

He then rambles on with more satanic drivel and misuse of Holy Scriptures:

“The gospel the Apostle Paul received directly from the risen Lord Jesus Christ is found in 1 Cor 15:1-4. This is the gospel that is relevant today and by which we are saved by today.”

Yes Paul did receive teaching directly from Yashua Messiah AFTER HE HAD BEEN BAPTISED AND GIFTED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT!!

He then quotes these Holy Scriptures, delusionally thinking that they back up and support his no-Baptism satanic ideas:

1Co15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

1Co 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

None of these Holy Scriptures support what he thinks. If he does think that, then he is reading his BS into them, that is, his wishful thinking – a favourite pastime of the deluded members of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion.

We then get more blasphemous lies:

“The moment someone believes the gospel personally, that the Christ bled and died on the cross for their sins, was buried, and rose again on the third day has received the gift of eternal life.”

The moment someone believes for the first time is in response to The Father’s call:

John 6:44 (MCV) No MAN can come to me, except The Father which hath sent me DRAW (DRAG) him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:65 (MCV) And He said, Therefore said I unto you, That no MAN can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

This is the ONLY WAY a man or a woman can come to Yashua Messiah. This is our calling but he or she MUST be Baptised and Gifted with The Holy Spirit in order to have Eternal Life. This is our outward sign of commitment to Him as our Saviour – a public declaration, if you like.

Yet more lies:

“The moment you believe, you’re eternally sealed with the Holy Spirit and are born again from above (Eph 1:13-14).”

Ephesians 1:13-14 (MCV) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard The Word of Truth, the Good News of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, (were Baptised) ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of His Glory.

All these Scriptures are doing is describing the moment we are gifted with The Holy Spirit when, after our Baptism, we are eternally sealed, but not until then. No one is born again from above until after this event. NO ONE!!! The old man MUST DIE IN THE WATERY GRAVE WITH YASHUA MESSIAH FIRST!

Then he says:

“When you trust the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior you can’t go to hell because the penalty for all your sins (past, present, & future) have already been paid for by Him.”

What he doesn’t tell us here is that NO ONE can fully trust Yashua Messiah (the Lord Jesus Christ) until they are Baptised and gifted with The Holy Spirit.

And yet again more lies:

“And only Christ kept the 10 Commandments and He imputes His righteousness, the righteousness of God, to your account the moment you believe the gospel and trust Him as Savior.”

And no one can fully believe the Gospel until they are Baptised and gifted with The Holy Spirit. Then they should have the Spiritual discernment to be able to read and understand the Gospel.

He then goes into all manner of nonsense about the mickey mouse Rapture and going to heaven, neither of which are going to happen – so all in all we can see what a blind guide he is:

“You may not feel like it but you become as holy and righteous as the Lord Jesus Christ and you’re eternally qualified for Heaven. You’re saved from hell and guaranteed Heaven when you die or are raptured because you believe the gospel and trust the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior.”

For by GRACE are Ye Saved Through FAITH; AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES: It is The Gift of God – Ephesians 2:8”

https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2018/09/19/for-by-grace-are-ye-saved-through-faith-and-that-not-of-yourselves-it-is-the-gift-of-god-ephesians-28/

Should Christians Be Baptised Into Yashua Messiah’s (Jesus Christ’s) Name Alone?

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The Crucial Importance of Baptism Including What Baptism Is Not

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Exposing a Satanic REPROBATE ILLEGITIMATE Called Jim – Part 2

Right, continuing straight on from part one we then get more conceited, arrogant, self-righteous, blasphemous drivel from this know-nothing mongrel dog:

“You’re a typical cult leader who only thinks they know the truth but in reality you preach an accursed gospel that Paul warned about in Gal 1:8-9. I know the gospel (1 Cor 1:15) and I know you don’t rightly divide the word of truth (2 Tim 2:15) You didn’t have the guts to post my comment because the real gospel disputes your false teachings.”

First he accuses me of being a cult leader. I would cry with laughing if what he said were not so sinful and serious, and that’s because all his false witness accusations are insults towards Yashua Messiah, not me, for it is He who has called and chosen me, I did not call on and choose Him. So this numbskull has indirectly blasphemed against Yashua Messiah and possibly the Holy Spirit that indwells me. Furthermore, and this is hilarious, I must be the first pauper cult leader LOL.

His armchair warrior bravado continues with him then calling me a coward, which is just infantile goading. This he compounds by then accusing me of being Scripturally ignorant when The Truth is the exact opposite, and it is he that is incapable of discerning Truth from The Holy Scriptures, which I proved unequivocally in part one.

His satanic evil vitriol continues:

“For example, you falsely teach water baptism to receive the Holy Spirit, when today the Holy Spirit is received when one believes the gospel. (Eph 1:13) May the Lord Jesus Christ rebuke you for leading people away from Him and His gospel.”

Here he just repeats his hollow empty claims, like a clanging cymbal, and compounds his evil sins, for which he will pay a severe penalty in the Resurrection, and with many more stripes than the lost and unsaved:

Luke 12:47-48 (MCV) And that servant, which knew his Lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to His will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Let this be a lesson to us when we get hold of the wrong end of the stick and then start lashing out with it and laying into our brothers and sisters when the errors are ours.

You see, what the dork has failed to understand is that when we are called The Holy Spirit visits us and then leaves, IT DOES NOT STAY! It comes in order to bring The Father’s calling card and then goes away again. It cannot stay within a live body of sin, hence our need for BAPTISM and the killing of our bodies of sin. This is a catastrophic lack of understanding and will cost him dear in the resurrection if he fails to repent.

In Yashua Messiah’s name
Brother Charles.

Paul’s Alleged First Letter to Timothy – Part 2 – 1 Timothy Chapter 2

SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: I am currently publishing my version of The Set Apart Scriptures – The MCV Bible, link here: https://thetruthnotdoctrine.wordpress.com

Introduction

In part one on this subject I proved without a shadow of doubt that the writer of 1 Timothy 1 was a forger and plagiariser of the early to mid 2nd century AC and that Paul was definitely not the author of chapter one of said Epistle. How can you be so certain I hear you ask? Well, that’s very simple, for the language of 1 Timothy 1, and the words used, are those of a Hellenising religious philosopher, that is, a deceiver. In other words, he was a Jewish inspired philosophising counterfeiter of the early Romish Babylonian Cult; the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion, as I call it, and certainly not Paul the first century Messenger of Yashua Messiah.

Moreover, as I begin unravelling 1 Timothy 2, I will reveal to you even more convincing proof that this author is a forger. In fact, 1 Timothy 2 is the humdinger chapter that cements my case and proves the Hellenising, philosophising, religious credentials and provenance of these Epistles.

However, having said all that, there are times when The Truth is written into these forgeries, for a religious deceiver will always hide his lies amongst The Truth. Hence the adage: “A lie is best hidden between two Truths.”

Furthermore, are The Truths within these Epistles from Paul’s pen or the forger’s pen? Are they from scraps of genuine manuscripts and then embellished by the forger’s own additional writings? Answer: I have no idea, but rest assured, there are some Truths in these epistles, which cannot be denied and hence I do not call for them to be expunged from the Set Apart Scriptures.

So, pressing on:

Chapter 2

1 (MCV) First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, thanksgiving, be made for all men;

1 Timothy 2:1 (KJV) I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, BE MADE FOR ALL MEN; (Emphasis mine)

1 Timothy 2:1 Notes — (a) Oh really, is that so!? Now is this statement a genuine Christian statement from Paul’s hand or is it meaningless religious clap trap, and an erroneous generalised unscriptural religious statement with no Set Apart Spiritual or Set Apart Scriptural provenance whatsoever? Now notice, first, the Set Apart Spiritual contrast from Paul’s hand here:

Romans 8:26 (MCV) Likewise the Set Apart Exclusive Spirit also helps us in our weaknesses: for we know not what we should pray for, as we ought: but the Set Apart Exclusive Spirit itself makes intercession and pleading for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Here, Paul is stating that we don’t even know how to pray correctly, so the Set Apart Exclusive Spirit prays for us!!!

And again:

1 Corinthians 14:15 (MCV) So what am I to do? I will pray with the Set Apart Exclusive Spirit, and I will pray with the mind in words that I understand also: I will sing with the Set Apart Exclusive Spirit, and I will sing with words that I understand also,

Now is The Set Apart Exclusive Spirit even mentioned in 1 Timothy 2:1? Not at all. Notice the emphasis: “THAT, FIRST OF ALL.” So this exhortation is prioritised above any others following it, never mind praising The Father God and giving Him thanks FIRST. So, basically, what he’s saying is put petitions, prayers and intercessions first, for ALL MEN, and then not even any thanks to Yah before or afterwards – as you do – NOT!!

1 Timothy 2:1 Notes — (b) Moreover, should we be making supplications, praying and making intercessions FOR ALL MEN at all? or is this nothing but a man made religious idea? By the term “ALL MEN” we must assume that this author is referring to all rebellious, lost and unsaved creatures, both mankind and hu-mans (Serpent Seed non-mankind) alike. Even those that may have heard the Kingdom Gospel message and ‘rejected it’. Yet what did Yashua Messiah say about these types of people?

Luke 10:13-16 (MCV) Woe (a curse) unto thee, Chorazin! Woe (a curse) unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. 14 But it shall be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you. 15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to sheol (the grave). 16 He that hears you hears me; and he that despises you despises me; and he that despises me despises The Father that sent me.

Woe unto thee Chorazin, which means a “horrendous grief” or CURSE towards Chorazin, Bethsaida and Capernaum!!!

OK, so let’s get this straight, and ask ourselves another pertinent question: Are we, as Christians, supposed to make prayers and supplications and intercede for people generally that Yashua Messiah would otherwise curse for their wicked rebellious behaviour in rejecting the Gospel Message Of The Kingdom of Yah when presented with it? that’s if He were here today in the flesh. Keeping in mind that these people would despise Yashua Messiah and The Father by treating Their Message with contempt, just like those people of Chorazin, Bethsaida and Capernaum did in the first century.

We could also put this another way, and ask this question: Are the rebellious, lost and unsaved masses entitled to the mercy, forgiveness and blessings as bestowed upon those The Father has called to His Son Yashua Messiah and saved? NO!!

If we then follow up with our due diligence on this subject of prayer, what do we find?

1 Corinthians 14:13-14 (MCV) Wherefore let him that speaks in a Spiritual tongue pray that he may receive the Spiritual gift of interpreting. 14 For if I pray in a Spiritual tongue, my spirit, with the Set Apart Exclusive Spirit, prays, but my understanding is not fed, so my mind remains unfed and unfruitful.

2 Corinthians 5:20 (MCV) Now then we are ambassadors for The Messiah – The Anointed, as though Yah did implore you through us: so we beg you in The Messiah’s – The Anointed’s stead, be ye reconciled to Yah and not remain His enemies.

2 Corinthians 13:7 (MCV) Now I pray to Yah that ye do no evil; not in order to show that we appear to be approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, even though we may be seen as disapproved.

Philippians 1:9 (MCV) And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;

Colossians 1:9 (MCV) For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;

1 Thessalonians 5:17 (MCV) Pray without ceasing.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 (MCV) And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Thessalonians 5:25 (MCV) Brethren, pray for us.

2 Thessalonians 1:11 (MCV) Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness, and the work of faith with power:

2 Thessalonians 3:1 (MCV) Finally, brethren, pray for us, that The Word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:

Make sure you understand, for ALL these genuine Pauline exhortations for prayer are Holy Spiritually based prayers and are for the brethren ALONE, not for mankind in general!

So what is 1 Timothy 2:1 all about? Answer: satanic Hellenising religious blanket universal forgiveness for all unrepentant sinners or a universal pardon FOR ALL MEN as long as they join matey’s new money making religious cult, now on offer from this forger on behalf of the Babylonian Romish Cult or, as I call it, The Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion, and cough up. Oh and don’t forget the hail (Queen of Heaven) Mary’s. LOL.

OK, I’m being deliberately facetious and sarcastic here, but the principle remains, and this is what 1 Timothy 2:1 is promoting here – the Hellenised Romish Cult. It is also a foundational verse of these fake epistles, for it sets the tone for what follows, and from Paul’s pen they most definitely did not come!!

However, having said all that, if there is someone you know and wish to pray for them, by all means pray, but always remembering that if The Father is not calling them, then they will remain unsaved in this age, and the answer to your prayer will be postponed to a future age. The same applies if they are sick. He may or may not heal them.

2 (MCV) For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all Set Apartness and honour.

1 Timothy 2:2 (KJV) For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. (Emphasis mine and I will deal with the heinous and ghastly religious word ‘godliness’ in detail next)

1 Timothy 2:2 Notes — (a) “For kings, and for all that are in authority;” Yes especially for Kings or Queens as they are anointed by Yah and are answerable to Yah alone. However, those allegedly ‘in authority’ (politicians) are your sworn enemies, so pray for them as you would for any enemy, but you shouldn’t vote for them, nor co-operate with them, nor forgive them. No repentance, no forgiveness:

Luke 17:3 (MCV) Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, (changes his behaviour) forgive him.

So when you pray for these satanic verminous people in authority, remember that they are your sworn enemies and pray as Yashua Messiah told you to pray here:

Matthew 5:44 (MCV) But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Furthermore, as for praying so that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, by all means, but always bearing in mind that these criminals in authority are The Devil’s own and your friends they are definitely NOT, and will do their damnedest to make sure that you do not have a quiet and peaceable life!! So keep this permanently in mind and be on your guard! This quote puts it into perspective:

“Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn’t mean politics won’t take an interest in you!”

— Pericles (430 B.C.)

3 (MCV) For this is good and acceptable in the sight of Yahavah Yashua Messiah our Saviour;

1 Timothy 2:3 (KJV) For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; (Emphasis mine)

1 Timothy 2:3 Notes — (a) This verse is part Truth especially in relation to what I have said above about 1 Timothy 2:2 so it is therefore only partly good, but it does tell us that Yashua Messiah is God.

4 (MCV) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of The Truth.

(KJV) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

1 Timothy 2:4 (KJV) Who WILL have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of The Truth. (Emphasis mine)

1 Timothy 2:4 Notes — (a) Now this verse is solid gold Truth, BUT WILL NOT HAPPEN IN THIS AGE! All men being saved will occur in the Second Resurrection when they will come to a knowledge of The Truth. And who is The Truth? Yashua Messiah is The Truth (see link No. 1 below).

5 (MCV) For there is one Yah The Father, and one mediator between Yah The Father and men, the man Messiah Yashua;

1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV) For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (‘who was made man’ from The Geneva Bible notes)

1 Timothy 2:5 Notes — (a) This verse is blasphemous satanic ‘Yah is one’ Monotheistic nonsense. From the Greek Transliteral Version:

1 Timothy 2:5 (Greek Transliteral) One for Yah, One and Mediator of-Yah and of mankind the man Anointed Jesus.

1) NOTICE: The remark “For there is one Yah” is total translator nonsense, for the words in italics [there is] are a translators addition, so what it should say is:

1 Timothy 2:5 (MCV) For one is Yah The Father, and one is mediator Yah between Yah The Father and men, the man Messiah Yashua who came in the flesh. That is, ONE who is Yah The Father and ONE who is the Mediator for man as Yah – letting us know that there are Two Gods = The Father and The Son. (See link Nos. 2, 3 and 4. below)

1 Timothy 2:5 Notes — (b) To emphasise, I trust also that you will notice how this verse has been sneakily corrupted. Yashua Messiah is Yah and Mediator of Yah The Father, not a lesser being between man and Yah. He is Yah as Mediator, Advocate, Consoler and Comforter who supplies us with His Set Apart Exclusive Spirit. This contamination is very subtle, and along the same lines of where the KJV says ‘Spirit of truth’, when it is ‘the Spirit of THE Truth’ as written in the Greek Transliteral. (See link No. 3 below for a full truthful explanation).

6 (MCV) Who gave Himself a ransom for all mankind (not Serpent Seed hu-mankind), to be testified in due time (see link No. 5 below).

1 Timothy 2:6 (KJV) Who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1 Timothy 2:6 Notes — (a) Here we have the classic error of presuming that Yashua Messiah died for all, when He only died for His people, that is, the children of Adam and Eve, and not for the children of Satan and Eve – The Serpent Seed (see link No. 5 below).

1 Timothy 2:6 Notes — (b) Here, too, we also have more Truth, as long as you understand that “testified in due time” is referring to the future resurrections, and not this age (once more see link No. 1 below). The testifying in this age is only for those CALLED and those CALLED and CHOSEN by The Father – The Elect – The Ecclesia, not for the masses of lost and unsaved as the universalist Roman Cult would have you believe, who attempt to gather all and sundry in for financial gain. Whether The Father is calling them or not is by the by.

7 (MCV) Whereunto I am placed as a herald, and a Messenger, I speak The Truth in The Messiah – The Anointed Christ, and lie not, a teacher of the Adamic Nations in Faith and Truth.

1 Timothy 2:7 (KJV) Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak The Truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

1 Timothy 2:7 Notes — (a) This verse is fairly sound, but whether it is from Paul’s pen or the forger I cannot say. However, I have my suspicions. For my notes on this verse I will go straight to the Greek Transliteral and then raise the relevant points:

1 Timothy 2:7 (Greek Transliteral) Into which was-placed I proclaimer (declarer or herald) and commissioner (messenger) Truth I-am-saying in Anointed (Christ) not I-am-falsifying teacher of nations in belief (faith) and Truth.

OK, the first relevant point here is ridding this verse of the religious slogan words ‘ordained’ ‘gentiles’ and ‘verity’. Paul was placed as a proclaimer or, better, placed as a declarer or herald of the Good News Kingdom of Yah message by Yashua Messiah Himself = no religious ritualistic ‘ordaining’ nonsense ever took place.

1 Timothy 2:7 Notes — (b) Gentiles is a word that needs full examination, (see link No. 6 below) for it means someone who is not a Roman Citizen, from the Latin word ‘gentilis’. This meaningless corrupting Latin word can be found in both Old and New Testaments, so what is it doing there? Answer: causing satanic confusion, again, see link No. 6 below for The Truth and details of this deceptive satanic word.

Secondly, and a final word on this verse, is that it may be genuine, but was corrupted by the religious translators, anyway, with the use of the word ‘verity’ – a derivation of the Latin word ‘veritatem’ which means Truth.

Now here’s a thing. This totally religious Latin based word ‘verity’ can only be found twice in The Set Apart Scriptures. Once in the Old Testament and once in the New Testament, here in 1 Timothy 2:7.

So my questions would therefore be: 1) WHY? and 2) Is this some kind of KJV translator religious tokenism going on here, as if to leave their Latin Romish religious trade mark in both Testaments in some sort of gratuitous way? Or is it just a symbolic way to make a satanic statement like a rubber stamping? Everywhere else the word Truth is used, so why use this vain unnecessary word at all, unless it’s only promoting elitist meaningless religiosity? Here is the verse from the Old Testament:

Psalm 111:7 (MCV) The works of His hands are verity (truth) and judgment; all His commandments are sure.

Here is 1 Timothy 2:7 as it should be written:

1 Timothy 2:7 (MCV) Whereunto I am placed as a herald, and a Messenger, I speak The Truth in The Messiah – The Anointed, and lie not, a teacher of the Adamic Nations in Faith and Truth.

Right, that’s enough of that:

8 (MCV) I therefore resolve to and intend that men pray every where, lifting up benign hands, without anger and reasoning.

I have removed verse 8 from the text of the MCV for it is total irrelevant religious rubbish.

1 Timothy 2:8 (KJV) I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

1 Timothy 2:8 Notes — (a) Now this verse is total Babylonian Romish religious drivel and humbug so I have removed it from the text. Make sure you understand that Paul would have prayed no such thing, for most men everywhere were lost and unsaved and WITHOUT Set Apart (Holy) hands, so why would Paul utter such erroneous generalised blanket rubbish? Let’s be clear, only a creature of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion could come out with religious drivel and bunk like this. So this verse is from the forger 100%. I have therefore deleted from the text.

As for wrath, the Word of God says be angry but do not sin, and don’t let the sun go down on your wrath – so nothing about being without wrath. Oh and how can you not be angry about this satanic evil world today, EVERYDAY!!?? Think on this very pertinent point!

Oh and finally, don’t you ever doubt his Babylonian Romish Cult or YOU will excommunicated forthwith!

9-12 (MCV) In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in decorous apparel, with modesty and sobriety; not with vain embellished hair styles, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But that which becomes women professing to be members of Yah’s Assembly – The Ecclesia, with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection, 12 for I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1 Timothy 2:9-12 (KJV) In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. (Emphasis mine)

1 Timothy 2:9-12 Notes — (a) Whether this was from the hand of Paul or not I have no idea, but I have no issues with any of it apart from the use of the word ‘shamefacedness’ which can mean ‘shame’ and is therefore a blasphemy, if that’s the meaning the translators were implying. TAKE NOTE!: No son or daughter of God should feel any shame about ANYTHING now that they are forgiven ALL their sins, if Baptised and gifted with The Set Apart Exclusive Spirit.

Furthermore, this word ‘shamefacedness’ can also mean ‘bashfulness’ which would be fine, especially as we look at the brazenness of the drunken tarts and froward hussies that parade themselves around the streets today semi-naked, with no shame at all.

To compound this we then have vile Cultural Jew Marxist dyke (lesbian) feminists and filthy dyke politicians (amazons and vixens) strutting around with their bows and arrows and who now rule over us.

I will therefore quote Isaiah as a severe warning because it has all happened before, re our ancestors, in the Northern Kingdom of Ancient Israel before they were carried off into captivity by the Assyrians (forefathers of The Germans):

Isaiah 3:12 (MCV) As for my people Israel, children are their oppressors (brainwashed infantile Cultural Jew Marxists), and women (Cultural Jew Marxist feminists) rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

This is what happens when we move away from the sound advice given here in 1 Timothy 2:9-12 whether it be from Paul’s hand or not.

1 Timothy 2:9-12 Notes — (b) Right, those brackets: “(which becometh women professing godliness).” What’s wrong with them I hear you ask? EVERYTHING is the answer to that question, but in what way? I also hear you ask. Quite simply, it’s all wrapped up in ONE WORD and that word is ‘godliness’ which is a satanic religious deception, for it means ‘piety’ and ‘piety’ is wholly a meaningless, empty, religious word – mealy mouthed drivel:

From Strong’s Concordance:

Godliness – G2317 – θεοσέβεια – theosebeia – theh-os-eb’-i-ah – From G2318; devoutness, that is, piety: – godliness.

Now this non-word ‘godliness’ (notice how it’s spelt with a small ‘g’ and not a capital ‘G’) can only be found in the questionable books of the New Testament, namely, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus and 2 Peter which tells us three very important things:

1) It is a word NEVER used by Yashua Messiah in the Four Gospels.

2) It is not a word used by Paul or Peter in their genuine writings and…

3) ALL these books were most likely penned by the same Hellenising religious dog forger or by Hellenisers with same satanic religious mindset as the forger and Christians they certainly were NOT!

Moreover, let’s be clear, ‘piousness’ or ‘godliness’ is a religious state of being, a phony state of being, not a Christian state of being and it’s not a born of Yah (born again) state of being. For example, ‘piousness’ is not being ‘Holy’ for ‘Holy’ means to be ‘Set Apart’ by Yah or to be called out by The Father to His Son Yashua Messiah and be made Set Apart (Holy) by the indwelling of His Set Apart Exclusive (HOLY) Spirit.

‘Piousness’ or ‘godliness’ is none of this – it’s a fraud, it’s a fake religious counterfeit state of being, practised by the evil creatures of The Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion, especially in the Babylonian Romish Cult and by its slapper daughter offspring Protestant Anglicanism = AngliCAINism.

Pious – Religious definitions from Dictionary.com:

1) Having or showing a dutiful spirit of reverence for God or an earnest wish to fulfill religious obligations.

2) Characterized by a hypocritical concern with virtue or religious devotion; sanctimonious.

3) Practiced or used in the name of real or pretended religious motives, or for some ostensibly good object; falsely earnest or sincere: a pious deception.

In the above secular definitions we can see how being ‘pious’ has many more negative meanings than positive, and even the ‘positive’ are still within the framework of RELIGION, and that’s because ‘pious’ and ‘piety’, as with ‘godliness’, are wholly religious fake Christian words, and nothing to do with Christianity or following Yashua Messiah at all. A fake Jesus, yes, but not Yashua Messiah. Notice, in point one of these definitions: ‘the dutiful spirit of reverence for god’ will be referring to the god of this world, Satan the Devil for he is the god of all RELIGION.

OK the final verses of 1 Timothy 2:

13-15 (MCV) For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not seduced, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression (see link No. 5 below). 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

1 Timothy 2:13-15 (KJV) For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Here is the Greek Transliteral version of these three verses:

1 Timothy 2:13-15 (Greek Transliteral) For Adam was before moulded, thereafter Eve 14 and Adam was not SEDUCED, yet the woman being deluded, has come to be in the transgression 15 Yet she shall be saved through child bearing, if ever they should be remaining in Faith, agape Love, Set Apartness and sobriety.

1 Timothy 2:13-15 notes — Here, dear reader, is a little test for you. Can YOU see the religious humbug and outright lies in the satanic words of these verses? I do hope so, but if not, no matter, for we all have to learn, and I recommend that you pray to The Father and ask Him to give you the Spiritual gift of discernment.

Lie No 1) And Adam was not seduced.

Lie No 2) Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

So did Eve seduce and deceive Adam just as she had been by The Serpent Creature, or not? Who was responsible for whom in The Garden? Upon whose desk did the buck stop? Is not the Man the head of the wife? Once we know what the original sin REALLY WAS (see link No. 5 below) then EVERYTHING else falls into place, and this verse just reads like Babylonian Romish Cult religious hogwash and humbug.

So here’s a question: When was a woman ever saved through child bearing? Answer on the back of a postage stamp, thank you.

In Yashua Messiah’s Set Apart name

Messenger Charles

1. Why Are There Two Resurrections?: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2019/08/13/why-are-there-two-resurrections-part-1/

2. The Duality Yahhead of The Father and The Son: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/the-duality-godhead/

3. Exposing The Trinity Lie:  https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/exposing-the-trinity-lie-part-1/

4. Are Trinity Worshippers Anti-Christs?: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/are-trinity-worshippers-anti-christs/

5. Did Eve Have Sex With The Devil or Did She Just Eat Some Fruit https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/did-eve-have-sex-with-the-devil-or-did-she-just-eat-some-fruit-part-1/

6. What Is The Word ‘GENTILE’ Doing in The Bible?: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2019/07/29/what-is-the-word-gentile-doing-in-the-bible-part-1/

What is a HERESY? What Are HERESIES and Are YOU a HERETIC?

First of all we’ll get some insight from Adam Clarke’s Commentary on this word ‘heresy’:

“The high priest – and – the sect of the Sadducees – Αἱρεσις των Σαδδουκαιων, The heresy of the Sadducees. In this place, (Acts 5:17) as well as in several others, the word αἱρεσις, heresy, has no evil meaning in itself; it is a word of distinction, and may receive either a good or bad colouring from the persons or opinions designated by it. It signifies a sect or party, whether good or bad, distinguished from any other sect.”

So in and of itself the word ‘heresy’ is benign, however, if you are a True Christian, or even a member of a counterfeit Protestant denomination (demon-ination), or not even a Christian at all, and with no interest in Christianity, have you ever wondered about these three words and what they mean? for they get banded about by the secular and religious alike, and with great regularity, especially by those of the satanic and judgemental Roman Catholic Cult, which is a major part of the equally satanic Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion. (See link No.s 1 and 2 below) Let’s face it, as soon as you decide not to go with the flow, you’re quickly branded a HERETIC!!

Moreover, when you hear these words levelled at someone, do they resonate a positive vibe within you, or a negative vibe? For me, they have always resonated a negative vibe, because they have always sounded accusatory and judgemental. Furthermore, historically, it usually meant the unfortunate people being judged and accused by The Roman Cult of ‘heresy’ were often brutally tortured, in order to extract their ‘confessions’. Shortly thereafter they would be burned at the stake for their alleged ‘heresies’ (usually based upon trumped up perjurious charges) and in true Roman Catholic loving ‘Christian’ style, of course. Nothing like spreading the Good News Gospel of The Kingdom eh? Furthermore, just to compound their evil wickedness, they, in their gross arrogance and self-righteousness, would be self-convinced that they were doing The Lord’s work – such was their delusional vain satanic thinking, and it still persists to this day as demonstrated here:

This is a social media comment addressed to me recently by an illegitimate who calls himself ‘Pantocrator’:

“‘Thetruthnotdoctrine’ is a heretic. The fool’s Internet alius is paradoxical: how can one communicate the truth without doctrine? Let all Christians on this forum beware of his poisonous doctrines – let him be anathema.”

For those interested to know what a ‘Pantocrator’ is, here’s a little from Wikipedia:

“In Christian Iconography, Christ Pantocrator – Greek: Χριστὸς Παντοκράτωρ – is a specific depiction of Christ (an idolatrous image). Pantocrator or Pantokrator, usually translated as “Almighty” or “all-powerful”, is derived from one of many names of God in Judaism.

“The Pantokrator, largely an Eastern Orthodox or Eastern Catholic theological conception, is less common under that name in Western Roman Catholicism and largely unknown to most Protestants. In the West the equivalent image in art is known (more Idolatry) as Christ in Majesty, which developed a rather different iconography. Christ Pantocrator has come to suggest Christ as a mild but stern, all-powerful judge of humanity.” (Brackets mine).

So here we have graphically displayed for us, an idolatrous dissolute reprobate – an apostate – a worshipper of graven icons, images and idols, that is, a vile creature of religion, calling me a heretic, and for me to be declared anathema!! I can hear his weeping, wailing and the gnashing of his teeth in The Resurrection from here LOL.

I have digressed slightly, so back to the thread:

Now, don’t get me wrong, for as we can see from the above, there are some people that deserve to be labelled a ‘heretic’, that’s if we take the Roman Catholic meaning of the word. However, the word ‘heretic’ doesn’t exist in The Holy Scriptures, now there’s a surprise! But what do exist are the words ‘Heresy’ and ‘Heresies’, ‘Heresy’ is used only once, and ‘Heresies’ three times, so they are REALLY IMPORTANT BIBLICAL WORDS! Much mocking sarcasm from the author with much laughter. Not only that, but are they a correct translation?

So let’s get Strong’s input on these two words and afterwards I will post all four Holy Scriptures so that we can get a contextual understanding:

G139 – Heresy – αἵρεσις haíresis, hah’-ee-res-is; – from G138; properly, a choice, that is, (specially) a party or (abstractly) disunion:—heresy (which is the Greek word itself), sect.

G138 – Heresy – αἱρέομαι hairéomai, hahee-reh’-om-ahee; – probably akin to G142; to take for oneself, that is, to prefer:—choose. Some of the forms are borrowed from a cognate ἕλλομαι héllomai hel’-lom-ahee; which is otherwise obsolete.

From The Blue Letter Bible Lexicon:

a) act of taking, capture: e.g. storming a city; b) choosing, choice; c) that which is chosen; d) a body of men following their own tenets (a sect or party)

Look what we have here from Strong’s: 1) a choice; 2) a party; 3) disunion; 4) a sect. Then we get confirmation from the Blue Letter Bible Lexicon. So what does this tell us? Well far from being negative, the word heresy looks like it is something very positive, that is, the separating of those who follow Yashua Messiah (The Way) from satanic religious illegitimates and Judaising mongrel dogs. In the first century that would have been primarily a separation from the Pharisee and Sadducee Jews, who were later usurped by the so-called Hellenising philosophers, known as the ‘church fathers’, that is, the counterfeit founders of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion.

Be sure you understand that religion is ruled by a spirit called Legion, and he presents this phenomena in a myriad of ways, (again see link No. 2 below) whether it be the religion of the ‘Christian’ Zionists, Jews, Muslims or Fundie ‘Christians’ with their Judaising Law based religion. We can then add in Papists with their Babylonian Mystery Religion, or Eastern Orthodox ‘Pantokrators’ with their iconographic idolatry. Furthermore, today, whilst the Pope is traipsing here, there and everywhere around the world promoting his mickey mouse satanic multi-faith unity BS, Paul was, and is, teaching the exact opposite – now there’s another surprise, and is that hilarious or what?

Acts 24:14 (KJV) But this I confess unto thee, that after The Way which they call heresy (‘a sect’), so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in The Law and in The Prophets: (Emphasis mine)

So here we have the ONLY use of the word ‘heresy’ in the whole of the Holy Scriptures, and all very positive it is, too, for it looks like the members of the True Church were known by certain evil creatures of religion as ‘heretics’. Now I wonder who these verminous mongrel dogs were that called the elect and/or the saints, heretics? Let’s see if we can shed any Light on it:

Acts 24:1-2 first part (KJV) And after five days Ananias the High Priest descended with the elders, and with a certain orator named Tertullus, who informed the governor against Paul.

2 And when he was called forth, Tertullus began to accuse him…

Acts 24:5 (MCV) For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Judean Israelites (not Jews) throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes:

Acts 24: 9 (MCV) And the Canaanite Jews also assented, saying that these things were so.

So there we have it, the Sanhedrin Canaanite Jews making use of this secular orator Tertullus (strange how he had a name very similar to the satanic Hellenising dog, Tertullian, who came on the scene over a hundred years later – circa 200 AC). Today, this orator would be known as a barrister, or an attorney in the USA, so a man ‘gifted’ with a slippery evil tongue.

From the above account we learn that the real ‘heretics’ were those very same types of people that laid accusations on our Lord Yashua Messiah before they crucified Him, and they were now accusing the brethren of Paul.

Right, let’s now move on to these three other verses that use the word ‘heresies’:

1 Corinthians 11:16–19 (Concordant Greek Literal Version) Now if anyone is presuming to be rivalrous, we have no such usage, neither The Ecclesias of God.” 17 Now in giving this charge I am not applauding, for you are coming together, not for the better, but for discomfiture.” 18 For first, indeed, at your coming together in The Ecclesia, I am hearing of schisms inhering among you, and some part I am believing.” 19 For it must be that there are sects (‘heresies’) also among you, that those also who are qualified may be becoming apparent among you.”

In this passage we can see that there was a load of argy-bargy going on within the fellowship of the Corinthian Church, with rivalries, which were causing discomfort to the brethren, due to the rivalries between them. These rivalries then developing into schisms and finally into sects, here called ‘heresies’ in the good old RELIGIOUS friendly King James Version.

Now there is a crucial point I would like to make here, and that is the choice of this word ‘heresies’, because, for me, it’s got Popery stamped all over it!! That means that there was no need for its use at all, when the word ‘sects’ was definitely more accurate and more appropriate from the non-religious True Christian perspective.

OK next verse:

Galatians 5:19-21 (Concordant Greek Literal Version) Now apparent are the works of the flesh, which are adultery, prostitution, uncleanness, wantonness, 20 idolatry, enchantment, enmities, strife, jealousies, furies, factions, dissensions, sects (‘heresies’), 21 envies, murders, drunkennesses, revelries, and the like of these, which, I am predicting to you, according as I predicted also, that those committing such things shall not be enjoying the allotment of The Kingdom of God.”

As we can see the same Roman Catholic RELIGIOUS evil contamination has taken place with the erroneous choice of ‘heresies’ on the part of the translators instead of ‘sects’.

Final verse:

2 Peter 2:1 (Concordant Greek Literal Version) Yet there came to be false prophets also among the people, as among you also there will be false teachers who will be smuggling in destructive sects (‘heresies’), even disowning The Owner (Yashua Messiah) Who buys them, bringing on themselves swift destruction.” (Brackets mine)

I think that just about wraps it up unless you think the article is heretical! LOL

In Yashua Messiah’s Holy name

Messenger Charles

1. The Counterfeit Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2017/05/26/the-cainite-judeo-christian-religion/

2. The Vile Satanic Curse Of Religion: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2021/10/20/the-vile-satanic-curse-of-religion/