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Introduction
Well, did she or didn’t she? That is the $64,000 question, because millions and millions of people would never even consider the idea, let alone give it any attention, but are they wise to do that? Are they just not interested, lazy or deceived? Was it just a piece of fruit, an apple perhaps, or is the fruit just pure symbolism? If it was just fruit, why did they cover their sexual regions with aprons and not their mouths? After all, it was very wicked this forbidden fruit!! Wasn’t it!!?? Either way, you now know what you have to do in order to find out.
So is my title question preposterous? If it is, how is it more preposterous than to think that the literal eating of a particular fruit from a particular tree, albeit forbidden by Yashua Messiah (The Yah of The Old Testament), can be considered that evil; that wicked; that heinous; that Adam and Eve should lose their opportunity of a continuing blessed physical life in paradise in The Garden and, with it, access to the Tree of Life, that is, Eternal Life?
If a child in our care were to not follow our instruction for the first time, would we lash out with a severe punishment at their first mistake? Obviously not, so why did The Yahavah Yashua Messiah punish our original parents so severely for eating the wrong kind of ‘apple’? OK, I know it doesn’t say apple, but it might just as well say it. Therefore, does this apparent trivial mistake and the punishment that follows, make any sense or, in other words, does the punishment fit the crime?
One would have thought not, but if we take it a step further and accept the Biblical narrative as symbolic for something else, that is, something entirely different, then, as we will find out, yes it does make sense. Indeed, we can then presume, without much doubt, that Adam and Eve’s sin was so serious, so heinous and so wicked that The Yahavah Yashua Messiah had no option but to severely punish and banish our original parents from The Garden.
Moreover, this leaves us with the knock-on question of what kind of wickedness or evil sin(s) could it have been that would warrant such a severe punishment? Interestingly Paul makes a back handed reference to the nature of their sin in his epistle to the Romans:
Romans 5:14 (MCV) Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression (violation), who is the figure of Him that was to come.
Notice, how many people from Adam’s time to Moses had not sinned to the same level of wickedness, here called a violation, as Adam and Eve had in The Garden.
Now up until a while ago, I was of the mind that Adam and Eve’s sin was just a simple act of bad judgement, a bad decision or a wrong choice, but writings I have discovered just lately have thrown a giant spanner into the works of my earlier understanding of the original sin. My understanding, too, not helped much by what is written in the King James Bible, hence I am now in the process of producing my own version of The Scriptures – The MCV Bible (see link at the top of the page).
However, always remember, that as believers, our understanding is never ours, it’s the understanding we are given that matters and The Yahavah does not give us total understanding and knowledge all at once or, at the beginning of our walk with Him. It takes years of study and much waiting on Him. Having clarified that little aside, let’s write the crucial verses here so that we can see for ourselves what The Scriptures actually say:
Genesis 3:15 (MCV) And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thyseed (sperm) and her(Adam’s) seed (sperm); it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise His heel.
(Take note: women do not produce seed {sperm} so I have included Adam’s name in this verse – hard to believe, I know, but some nay-saying numbskulls actually need this no brainer issue to be made clear to them and even then refuse to accept it.)
OK, let’s move on, for this verse is most important in that it influences the whole of this study, for it mentions TWO SEEDS! Now what are these two “seeds”? because before we continue we must be clear in our minds what they represent and, of course, it’s very straight forward. Most readers will know what the Biblical word ‘seed’ means, in this context, but to make sure let’s use another example or two so that there is no ambiguity or confusion:
Genesis 9:8-9 (MCV) And Yah spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying, 9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you.
Genesis 15:3 (MCV) And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir.
Strong’s Concordance Hebrew References:
H2233 – SEED – zera – zeh’-rah – From H2232; seed; figuratively fruit, plant, sowing time, posterity: – X carnally, child, fruitful, seed (-time), sowing-time.
H2232 – SEED – zâra‛ – zaw-rah’ – A primitive root; to sow; figuratively to disseminate, plant, fructify: – bear, conceive seed, set with, sow (-er), yield.
So as we can plainly see, the word ‘seed’ refers to conception and offspring and if we refer to Strong’s Concordance for further evidence we will find that the Hebrew word for ‘seed’ in Genesis 3:15 is the very same as in Genesis 9:9 and 15:3. OK, so if we go back to Genesis 3:15 we can see that The Yahavah Yashua Messiah is going to put enmity (open hostility) between these two very different seeds or lines, but who is The Yahavah Yashua Messiah speaking to? Let’s go there now to find out:
Genesis 3:14 (MCV) And The YAHAVAHYah said unto The Serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
There we have it; The Yahavah Yashua Messiah is speaking to The Adversary, The Serpent and arch-deceiver also known as The Destroyer, and in this instance the arch-seducer, for, without doubt, one of the TWO SEEDS mentioned here is his seed.
Notice, too, the phrase “because thou hast done this,” and from that we can easily deduce that The Serpent Creature actually did something and the term ‘doing something’, more often than not, refers to a physical action, not just an ‘action’ of sitting idly by on the sidelines enticing, goading or provoking as an exuberant spectator.
So what does all this mean, for we are very definitely dealing with a physical seed that belongs to The Serpent Creature? (see link No. 7 below). In turn, this now beggars the question, how can a spirit being have physical sexual relations with a woman? Well, the only verse in the Holy Scriptures we can rely on or turn to for any evidence in support of this event is in Genesis once more:
Genesis 6:1-2 (MCV) And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of Yahsaw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Who were these so-called “sons of God”that took the descendants and/or daughters of Adam for wives? Well they can only be one thing, they were fallen angels or angels that went astray and left their first estate as described in Jude 6:
Jude 1:6 (MCV) And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto The Judgment of The Great Day.
The important words of this verse are ‘kept not’, ‘first estate’ and ‘habitation’. The words ‘kept not’ mean they failed to keep a guard or failed to hold as precious their Spiritual inheritance or estate, that is, to maintain any value upon their Spiritual substance, and the honour bestowed upon them as Spirit beings. Instead, they took it upon themselves to choose the lower order of the physical or the base level of physical men. This means they despised their inheritance or first estate and placed more value upon human fleshy desires and, don’t forget, these daughters of Adam were women in the fallen condition – they were not saved.
Furthermore, these angels treated with contempt their manifestly higher order that The Yahavah Yashua Messiah had blessed them with, that is, their ‘first estate’ – their high position. Not only that, they gave up their home as well or their superior habitation. Very reckless and foolish indeed; so much so, it ultimately cost them their freedom because the Yahavah Yashua Messiah incarcerated them in darkness, where they are to this day and where they will remain until the Last Great Day at the end of the Millennium or the end of The Yahavah Yashua Messiah’s one thousand year reign, on this earth, as King of kings.
Now this brings us to an important issue. The wickedness of these fallen angels was not a one off, this had all happened before, and it was a follow on from the earlier wickedness of their leader, The Serpent Creature, otherwise known as ‘Sammael’ in the other writings I mentioned earlier. He set the example in The Garden and these fallen angels followed in his footsteps, and their actions were a repeat of his wickedness.
So what was this wickedness? Quite simply, it was the seduction of Eve. We can then add in the cuckolding of Adam and/or very likely the sodomising of Adam – we do not know all the details, other than Adam ate of the same ‘fruit’ as Eve, that is, Adam partook of the same wickedness as Eve.
However, what we do know is that The Serpent Creature contaminated their Set Apart Union, which, up until that point, had not been consummated. This means that Adam and Eve discovered the sexual act through perversion, miscegenation, debauchery and lust and nothing but lust. This event was a compounding event, because after The Serpent Creature had had his evil way with Eve and Adam, he then, through Eve, encouraged Adam to take her afterwards, thereby reducing her to the status of a sexual object, an adulteress or worse, a promiscuous slut or unpaid whore. In effect, this was the first pornographic act – the first threesome; the use of the woman’s body (and the man’s) for nothing but selfish sexual gratification. There was no love in this event at all, and it was the first sexual act on earth between a man and a woman, but only after she had been defiled by another.
This, too, is how they knew they were naked and covered themselves with leaves and why, too, they hid from The Yahavah Yashua Messiah in The Garden. They covered their sexual regions, they were laden with shame and guilt – they felt dirty and contaminated.
Furthermore, it was this act that opened their eyes and gave them the knowledge of good and evil, not through the literal eating of an ‘apple’, the fruit is pure symbolism. Not only that, if we think the literal eating of fruit from the wrong tree can make us feel dirty, unclean and shameful what kind of fruit could that be? OK, we could and would feel guilty for having not followed The Yahavah Yashua Messiah’s instructions, but not dirty, contaminated and ashamed. No, there is only one act or acts that could have had that kind of effect on a previously innocent man and woman, and those acts were the sodomising of Adam and the promiscuous, lustful, loveless, perverted sexual acts between The Serpent Creature and Eve, and then Adam and Eve.
OK, so we now have the evidence that shows this wicked event took place, but where does this lead us? Quite simply, back to THE TWO SEEDS, the two seeds that produced two offspring – Cain and Abel. One child was of The Serpent’s seed and the other was of Adam’s seed. How do we know this? Not easy, because the King James Bible is not that helpful, in fact it’s of no use at all, so we have to look elsewhere, but where? Well, before I do that, let’s copy the KJV verse here, first, to analyse what it says:
Genesis 4:1-2 (KJV) And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from The LORD. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Now, based upon the evidence that I have revealed from The Scriptures, Genesis 4:1 seems to read like a complete contradiction of the previous verses. We know there are to be TWO SEEDS, but this verse looks as if it’s saying that Cain is Adam’s son and Abel is Adam’s son too, and not only that, but that Cain was a gift to Eve from The Yahavah Yashua Messiah Himself no less. Now where have THE TWO SEEDS gone? because if Cain and Abel are both Adam’s sons then they can only be of THE ONE SEED, for they are both of Adam’s seed, so what’s going on in this verse?
Well we know don’t we, The Truth or the true evidence has been written out of the narrative by the translators. Now there’s a surprise (much sarcasm), why would they do that!? They would do it, because it would mean that they would have to admit that there are certain beings (hu-man beings) we live with on this earth that are of a specific demonic race. It would also mean their having to admit what I have stated above, that Eve had sex with The Serpent Creature and produced this race via Cain from that evil illegitimate union.
Furthermore, and this is a big furthermore, if the translators deliberately wrote this Truth out of the narrative, could it be that they themselves were descendants of Eve and The Serpent Creature!!?? I will leave you, dear readers, to come to your own conclusions, but I know what I think.
Finally, for part one of this series, who are these demonic hu-man beings and how do we identify them? (See link No. 2 below). Well, first of all, we have got to get to grips with a whole load of stuff going on here in Genesis 4:1 before I cover that, and it will require another article to do that, so stay with it folks.
Did Eve Have Sex With The Devil or Did She Just Eat Some Fruit? – Part 2 – Cain and Abel.
So back to Genesis 4:1. What’s going on here, because it makes no sense when we add in the evidence which I revealed in part one, so I will copy it here again:
Genesis 4:1-2 (KJV) And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from The LORD. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. (Emphasis mine)
Now before I expound on the other writings, let’s look at the KJV first to see if we can make any sense of it: “And Adam knew Eve, his wife,” hello, excuse me, Adam did what? Adam had already ‘known’ his wife in The Garden, so how is it that after expulsion from The Garden he is only now ‘knowing’ his wife as if for the first time? And what has happened to The Two Seeds if Adam is the father of both Cain and Abel? Notice, it doesn’t say “And Adam knew Eve his wife again”.
Then it says she conceived and bare Cain and not only that but she says she has: “Gotten a man from The Lord”. How does that work!!?? (See Part 5) We then have Eve conceiving and baring Abel, but with Adam having only known her once, so what’s going on here!!??
We need to understand, and MUST NOT lose sight of the fact, that Eve fell pregnant due to sinful, pornographic, evil, promiscuous and lascivious sexual acts, and then declares she has been blessed with a man from The Yahavah Yashua Messiah. As already stated, and ask yourselves this: does The Yahavah Yashua Messiah bless sin!!??
If you’re in any doubt you only have to recall what happened to King David’s child through his illicit sexual shenanigans with Bathsheba to know that The Yahavah Yashua Messiah does not bless the fruits of the womb of Biblical characters when they seriously misbehave:
2 Samuel 12:7-14 (MCV) And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith The YAHAVAH God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; 8 And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master’s wives into thy bosom, and gave thee The House of Israel and (The House) of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things. 9 Wherefore hast thou despised The Commandment of The YAHAVAH, to do evil in His sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon. 10 Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife. 11 Thus saith The YAHAVAH, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. 12 For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun. 13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against The YAHAVAH. And Nathan said unto David, The YAHAVAH also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die. 14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of The YAHAVAH to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
Here in the above verses we can see that The Lord Yahavah Yashua Messiah does not bless sinful ‘fruits’ of the womb.
Make no mistake, Eve’s evil union with The Serpent Creature would, and could, only bring trouble, not only to her, but to Adam, and for all mankind in the future as well, culminating in The Flood and the sinful post flood world, too, that is, our world today.
If we know the story, we will also know that the fruits of this event would be graphically displayed through the way in which Cain turns out, that is, what kind of a being he was – a sinful ‘hu-man’ being – NOT A MAN; Cain was the first ‘hu-man’ being. As an aside, ‘hu’ from the Hebrew/Gaelic tongue means ‘serpent’, so a ‘hu-man’ is a serpent-man – a descendant of Cain. A man therefore is NOT a ‘hu-man’ being and a ‘hu-man’ being is NOT a man. This is why The Yahavah Yashua Messiah was known as The Son of Man – a Son of Adam and was never a ‘hu-man’, nor was He a Canaanite Jew (see link No. 4 below).
Moreover, and that being the case, what was Eve really saying when she said she had: “Gotten a man from the Lord?” This KJV corrupted evidence also raises another question, how did the guilt ridden Eve come to the conclusion that Cain was a gift from The Lord!?
To recap, we now know that Adam and Eve’s sin in The Garden was sexual in nature, because they covered sexual regions with aprons to hide their shame. This means that Eve must have had a good idea of whose child she was carrying in her womb. That being the case, how did she come to the conclusion (according to the corrupted KJV) that it was a gift from The Yahavah? How does that make any sense?
Furthermore, how did the Freemason and ex-papist translators of the KJV think they were going to get away with this stupid nonsense – the nonsense of Eve’s statement that: “she had gotten a man from the Lord”? Was it a case that they thought she was completely naïve? I don’t think so, because all they wanted to do was hide the truth that Cain was literally a son of The Serpent Creature. Why did they want to do that and what did they have to gain from such devious behaviour? All will be revealed as this series of articles develops!
Again, if we continue to accept the story line, as written in the KJV, we then have to ask ourselves if Cain and Abel were twins, for it appears that Adam ‘knows’ Eve once only. So if Eve did have twins, could these twins have had different fathers? a phenomenon known in medical terms today as superfetation. Well, it has been known, and more often than we might at first think. A little web-search will soon reveal and, confirm to you, this not so uncommon anatomical phenomenon. Therefore, Cain and Abel could easily have been twins with The Serpent Creature as Cain’s father, and Adam as Abel’s father. The thing is, twins or not, it’s The Two Seeds or Two Seed Lines that matter here, nothing else, for this is the core of the matter.
Now before we move on to the other writings, let’s add another Scripture here to help us unravel this mystery:
1 John 3:12 (MCV) Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And why did he slay him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.
Notice, in this verse of John’s letter, we have Cain who was “of that wicked one”. The word ‘of’ here in Strong’s Concordance means ‘origin’, so Cain’s “origins” are of The Serpent Creature which, again, points to him being The Serpent Seed.
Moreover, more proof and evidence is made plain through the genealogy of Adam in Genesis 5. Notice, you will not find Cain’s name mentioned in that genealogy, why is that? Well, quite obviously, because Cain was not Adam’s child. I will copy the proof and evidence here:
Genesis 5:3 (MCV) And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth.
Now why did Moses write this verse like that? Why, to draw our attention to the fact that Seth was made in Adam’s own likeness, after his own image. Why make special reference to that? What other image or likeness could Eve have born in her womb, if it was not in Adam’s image and in his likeness!!?? Well obviously, this verse is telling us, without actually saying it, that of the two sons, Cain and Abel, Abel now deceased, only one of them was in Adam’s image and in his likeness – Abel. Elsewhere in The Scriptures it tells us that Seth is a child born to Adam and Eve to take Abel’s place:
Genesis 4:25 (MCV) And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For Yah, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
The Adamic line to Noah:
So this means that from Adam we have Abel (murdered) and then Seth who begat Enos, who begat Kenan, who begat Mahalaleel, who begat Jared, who begat Enoch, who begat Methuselah, who begat Lamech and who begat Noah. So there we have it, the Adamic-Sethitic line from Adam to Noah, and all without a single mention of Cain – proving yet again that Cain was not Adam’s seed.
Right, I will now copy here what it says in documents known as the Aramaic Targum(s). Those of you not familiar with these writings, the Aramaic Targums are ancient Jewish writings dating from around the time of the Jews captivity in Babylon, so this means they date from around 550 BC. In general, these writings are blasphemous in their content, and I would not recommend them to Christian brothers and sisters at all. Having said that we cannot conclude that everything written therein is error, for Truth can be found in the most unlikely of places. For example, in the caves where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found. OK, so here is writing number one:
And Adam knew that his wife Eve had conceived from Sammael the angel (of death) and she became pregnant and bore Cain. And she said: “I have got a man from the angel of the LORD.”
And here is writing number two:
Targum Onkelos THE TARGUM OF PALESTINE IV:
Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Hava (Eve) his wife, who had desired (lusted after) the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, (from) the angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, (superfetation) even Habel (Abel). And Habel was a shepherd of the flock, but Kain was a man working in the earth.
Now how about that for a revelation!!?? Here we can plainly see these verses have a completely different narrative altogether, and tell us a very different story from the corrupted meaningless nonsense in the KJV. The story now begins to make some sense. We know that The Serpent Creature was always going to try and thwart The Yahavah Yashua Messiah’s plans for His pinnacle of creation – MANKIND. We are, after all, made in Their Image and Their likeness, so what better way to thwart that plan than by literally polluting The Yahhead’s creation by intercourse with His creation, Eve (miscegenation). Notice, too, how Eve’s statement has changed and the naïvety of her KJV statement revealed for what it is – nonsense – the work of evil dissemblers via their agenda based corrupted translation. (See part 5)
Returning once more to the KJV, notice, too, how Eve is known as the “Mother of All Living” but Adam is not known as the ‘father of all living’:
Genesis 3:20 (MCV) And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living, both hu-man kind and Mankind.
The word ‘was’ here should more accurately be translated ‘was to become’ and of course she did become the mother of all living, but Adam is nowhere known as the ‘father of all living’. This, once again, tells us that Eve bore a child from another source other than Adam, and, of course, that source was The Serpent Creature.
If we now return to Genesis 4:1-2 we can then see that after Eve conceived Cain, she then bore Abel, but it doesn’t say how long the interval between the two conceptions was, so as I said earlier some commentators say Cain and Abel were twins, others that Abel followed swiftly nine months later. Either way they were of a similar age and grew up together, one, Abel, being a keeper of sheep and the other, Cain, a tiller of the ground.
The story then continues with Cain’s infamous wicked act of murdering his half-brother, but what was behind this act? All will be revealed in part three.
Did Eve Have Sex With The Devil or Did She Just Eat Some Fruit? – Part 3 – The Mark of Cain
Continuing straight on from part two, what was behind Cain’s murderous act; what was his motive? Most people believe it was just the evil act of a jealous brother whose offering to The Yahavah Yashua Messiah was not acceptable, but what made it unacceptable? Was it just because it was not an animal that made it unacceptable, or was there something else? and was the unsatisfactory offering of Cain symbolic of a deeper malaise within Cain? for we must not forget who his physical father was – The Serpent Creature.
OK, we know, too, that there was an argument between the two half-brothers but what was the argument about?
Genesis 4:8 (MCV) And Cain vehemently argued with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.
Here, the word ‘talked’, as in the KJV is meaningless understatement on the part of the translators – dissembling at its best and I jest not. Cain and Abel were arguing ferociously, but what about? Well, we have a good idea, because it was the subject of sacrifices or offerings, that is, those that were acceptable to The Yahavah Yashua Messiah and those that were not. So what was unacceptable about Cain’s offering? Quite simply, it contained no blood, and it was one made partially with his hands. He had to plant the crops he offered, as opposed to Abel’s which was made totally without his hands and by Yah.
Yashua Messiah is The Stone or The Rock (please note, all you deceived Roman Catholics) hewn without hands (see Daniel 2). Cain’s offering was a tarnished offering, an insulting offering, and Abel’s was unspotted and perfect, a lamb of the firstlings of his flock, a former type of the Passover Lamb with its shed blood that soaked into the ground.
There was something else, too, within this rebellion of Cain, for it was not just Spiritual. The Spiritual dimension to all this was only the half of it, for be aware, the rebellious physical descendants of Cain are still with us today, as is his name. But how can an evil spirit, six thousand years old, have influence over us today, I hear you say? Again, quite simply, because it was the spirit of The Serpent Creature, alive in Cain, and a spirit that would be carried over and through The Flood; through Ham and his sinful shenanigans with his mother Naamah.
At this moment in time a descendant of Cain has recently stood in the American elections for the Republican Party – Senator McCain. Mac means ‘son of’, so there we have him, a son of Cain, hoping to be made President of the USA. Then we have Dick Cheney. If we harden the ‘ch’ as in the Chaldean/Hebrew tongue, what we have in reality is Dick Cainey. Yet another descendant of Cain, as vice president of the US; how does that make you feel folks? Dan Quayle, too, is another Cainite name. Then more recently there was Herman Cain! They seem to like power, these descendants of Cain, do they not!!??
Having digressed a little, but keeping with the above theme, I’ll now return to the historical account. Cain wanted to rule the roost in both areas of influence and stamp his authority on everything. All politics and religion – THE SYSTEM, THE MATRIX, or THIS AGE or what The Scriptures call THIS WORLD. Make no mistake folks,The New World Order started here with Cain, and there was no way he was going to allow this ‘upstart’ son of Adam (man) half brother to have any authority over him!
Cain, don’t forget, was a demonic hybrid – a half heavenly serpent being and half manly being – a ‘hu-man’ being, so no doubt considered himself far superior to his earthly, fully man, half brother Abel. As already made clear earlier, ‘hu’ from the Hebrew/Gaelic tongue means ‘serpent’ so a ‘hu-man’ is a ‘serpent-man’ and NOT A MAN! Mankind and hu-mankind are two very different species (see link No. 1 below).
Moreover, this spirit was The Serpent’s spirit, imparted to Cain by his father The Serpent Creature. The Serpent Creature knew Yah’s plan would eventually mean men resurrected to Spirit status in the First Resurrection, (see link No. 8 below) a status that would give resurrected Spiritual men POWER and AUTHORITY over him and his followers in the future. The Scriptures bears this out when Paul said to the Corinthians:
1 Corinthians 6:3 (MCV) Know ye not that we shall judge angels? How much more things that pertain to this life?
The Serpent Creature, therefore, was going to do all in his power to stop mankind attaining his ultimate prize – Eternal Life with authority over angels, for us as resurrected Spiritual beings – The Elect in the Kingdom of Yah on this earth. His evil plan to thwart the progress of Mankind, therefore, began with the murder of Abel through his inbred son Cain, and with this evil act came the infamous Mark of Cain:
Genesis 4:15 (MCV) And The YAHAVAH said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And The YAHAVAH set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
The question that now needs answering is WHY!!?? Why did The Yahavah spare Cain, for without any doubt it was a let off, if only a temporary let off. Under The Law (for The Law, in Spirit, was in force before Moses) of the Old Covenant he should have been slain immediately, and in the same way as he had slain his brother – an eye for an eye etc.. So why did Yashua Messiah let him off? For the simple reason that everything is to Yah’s Glory and His Glory being ultimately served through His plan for Mankind, which The Serpent Creature was never going to stop – try as he will.
In order to comprehend Yah’s ways, we must understand this fundamental of fundamentals. All the events in the narrative of the OT had to come to pass, in order to bring us to, and, necessitate Yashua Messiah’s birth into this world, and then His sacrifice and His resurrection. This ‘Mark’ that Cain received is one and the same as the Mark of the Beast in Revelation, and I will deal with this in more detail later.
We must also remember, as well, that our ways are not Yah’s ways; our logic and reasoning are not Yah’s logic and reasoning. Our ideas of logic and reasoning are based solely upon our puffed up: “we think we know what’s best” vanity and pride, unless of course, we are born of Yah (born again) and have a close brotherly relationship with Yashua Messiah, who then teaches us His ways and His logic, that is, His wisdom.
Cain’s ways are not Yashua Messiah’s ways, for Yashua Messiah is The Way. Cain’s ways involve lies and vain deceit, philosophy, theology and the intellect, which man has emulated to his own downfall. This means man’s pride and vanity, through his reliance on his own logic and reasoning, has created nothing but blasphemous error when it comes to matters Scriptural and Spiritual. In turn, this mindset, a mindset of philosophical intellectual reasoning has separated man from his Creator.
Colossians 2:8 (MCV) Beware therefore lest any man spoil you through religious theology, intellectualism, philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of hu-man beings and treacherous men, after the carnal base elements of the world, and not after The Messiah – The Anointed.
A good example of this phenomena was a Canaanite Jew by the name of Philo who operated out of Alexandria in Egypt in the first century AC, from whence we get the word ‘philosophy’. He groomed and ‘educated’ some of the counterfeiting ‘church fathers’, so-called, who then infiltrated the first century church in order to corrupt it and then go off in order to start their Christian RELIGION! This Philo, being a Canaanite Jew, made him a descendant of Cain.
Getting back to the story line, we then have Yah punishing Cain for Abel’s murder, but with a punishment Cain cannot bear. How is it a punishment he cannot bear? He cannot bear it because man’s environment was to be cursed by Yah a second time. Man lost the beautiful environment of the Garden of Eden through Adam and Eve’s sin and he was about to loose the fertility of the earth as a whole. The Yahavah was going to curse the earth totally so that it would no longer yield any crops at all, and all men would know that Cain was to blame for it, and would therefore seek him out to kill him:
Genesis 4:12 (MCV) When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
There we have it, Cain as fugitive on the run from his half-brother mankind (Seth’s descendants) for the rest of his days and, as a poverty stricken vagabond at that. Unsurprisingly, this was more than he could bear. So Cain pleads for mercy and The Yahavah hears him:
Genesis 4:13-15 (MCV) And Cain said unto The YAHAVAH, My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 15 And The YAHAVAH said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And The YAHAVAH set a Mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
Again, there we have it and with Cain admitting that his face will be hid from The Yahavah and his life not worth a dime. So The Yahavah puts a Mark on Cain protecting him from his half-brother mankind lest any should attempt to kill him.
Now this is all very interesting I hear you say, but if we have modern descendants of Cain still with us today, do they still carry the same mark? Yes, of course they do. How do we know that? Easy, they get away with blue murder, and never get apprehended. Here in Britain our ex-Prime Minister was nick named “Teflon Tony”, for it seemed nothing would stick to him. Crisis and crimes followed crisis and crimes, including unlawful wars and genocide in the Middle East, and he appeared untouchable which, of course, he was, and still is.
Both he, and Bush, are highly suspect in many of their escapades and dealings, but has anyone here in The West charged them with a single offence? No, no way, not a chance. Why? Why, because of the Mark of Cain. Mr Blair was also nick-named B. Liar, which is a play on the name Belial, one of The Adversary’s princes, the sons of whom are known more commonly as ‘lying scoundrels’. Doesn’t that just about sum up most politicians? I reckon.
Finally, we then have Cain’s genealogy from Enoch:
Genesis 4:18-22 (MCV) And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech. 19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. 21 And his brother’s name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. 22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubal-Cain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubal-Cain was Naamah.
Now this Naamah is reputed to have been Noah’s wife, but The Scriptures again go stone cold on this topic, for Mrs Noah is never referred to by name. However, she is mentioned in The Book of Jasher as Noah’s wife. There is also other evidence, too, with the name of Cain being mentioned post-Flood via the name of a tribe of people known as the Kenites. In the Hebrew language their name is a derivation of Cain. In the Hebrew, it’s pronounced ‘qey-niy’ or ‘kay-nee’ and Cain is pronounced ‘qayin’ or ‘kay-yin’ so we can see there is a definite connection.
We then have the name Canaan which is pronounced ‘ken-na’an’ or ‘Ken-ah-an’. So as we can plainly see all these people are related and originate from Cain. This means that Cain’s race did not die out with The Flood, it continued, but how? All will be revealed in my next article. I will also be dealing with the subject of the giants – the ‘nephilim’, who lived upon the earth at that time, so stay with it folks.
Did Eve Have Sex With The Devil or Did She Just Eat Some Fruit? – Part 4 – Why the Curse on Canaan?
In part three I left it, where, according to the King James Bible, Noah’s wife is only referred to as the nondescript “Mrs Noah” (my terminology), but who was she? As I showed in part three, in order for the line of Cain to bridge the flood, one of the eight redeemed survivors that entered The Ark had to be a descendant of Cain. Always remembering that The Flood was WORLDWIDE, not partial or localised, as some lying mongrel dogs would have you believe (see link No. 9 below). That means, ALL the people that populate this world today are descended from the eight people than came off The Ark, plus Canaan who was born to Noah’s wife at that time or very shortly thereafter.
Moreover, another crucial point we need to understand is this, that at this point in mankind’s history, the tribal, clannish or, better, The Seed Line, is carried by the male side, and it does not change to the female side until Sarah, Abraham’s first wife. So this means that the Adamic/Sethitic line, or the line of man is carried by Noah and his three sons. This in turn means that Noah’s daughters-in-law could also have been descendants of Cain, but we are not told. However, Shem’s wife, was most definitely of the Adamic/Sethitic line.
Furthermore, because the male side, at this juncture, carries the dynastic line, the genetic origins of these women are of no significance. The Adamic/Sethitic line is carried by all three sons, for they were all sons of Adam, via Seth, and therefore men, not hu-man beings, not of Cain and not Serpent Seed beings.
However, this brings us back to the racial identity of Mrs Noah, for it is she who is the link pin to this fascinating story. Please note, too, for this is important. All the offspring of Noah’s three sons will carry the Adamic/Sethitic line, but with one exception and I will return to this issue later in the article.
Now as I also stated in part three, there is a woman mentioned in Genesis 4:22 by the name of Naamah who was the sister of Tubal-Cain, so she was definitely a descendant of Cain.
Genesis 4:22 (MCV) And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubal-Cain was Naamah.
The thing is, was she Noah’s wife? The answer, and suspiciously so, once more, cannot be found in the King James Bible. We therefore have no option but to look elsewhere for the evidence. Having looked elsewhere, what do you think we will find? Answer: Yes, Naamah was Noah’s wife, according to the Midrash Genesis Rabbah which are ancient Judaic texts, and from Wikipedia we get:
“The early Jewish midrash Genesis Rabba (23.3)[3] identifies this Naamah (the daughter of Lamech and sister of Tubal-cain) as the wife of Noah (see Rashi’s commentary on Genesis 4:22), while some Jewish traditions associate her with singing.[1]”
“Genesis Rabba Bereshith Rabba is a religious text from Judaism’s classical period. It is a midrash (Hebrew for ‘an interpretation’) comprising a collection of ancient rabbinical homiletical interpretations of the book of Genesis (Bereshith in Hebrew).”
From another source we have verses 15-16 in chapter five of the Book of Jasher, which reads as follows:
Jasher 5:15-16 And thou shalt raise up seed, and thy children with thee, in the midst of the earth; and Noah went and took a wife, and he chose Naamah the daughter of Enoch, and she was five hundred and eighty years old. 16 And Noah was four hundred and ninety-eight years old, when he took Naamah for a wife.
Now please take note for this Enoch is not the Enoch that Yashua Messiah took, this is the Enoch born to Cain:
Genesis 4:17 (MCV) And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Moreover, the Book of Jasher is referred to as the ‘lost’ Book of Jasher and in modern terms dates from a translation of 1887. Interestingly, this book gets mentioned twice in The Scriptures, so from this evidence alone we can assume that it has more than some validity, and here are The Scriptures for your information:
Joshua 10:13 (MCV) And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in The Book of Jasher?
2 Samuel 1:18 (MCV) (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in The Book of Jasher.)
Here we can plainly see that the Book of Jasher is referred to as a reference of some importance and used as proof text or back-up evidence for the two historical events mentioned. It is being used as a source of validation, so we cannot just sweep it aside as a book of myths and/or fallacious additional material.
OK, so with this proof and evidence in mind we will return to The Scriptures where we read the account of Ham’s wickedness, or his alleged wicked sin perpetrated upon his father, Noah. Here again the King James Bible leaves much to be desired in its recording of this crucial event in mankind’s history. In effect, it’s another of those dumbed down stories, like the fall in the Garden of Eden account. Both these accounts were written so as to mislead by not revealing the detailed Truth of these sordid and evil events. Make no mistake; this solitary evil act by Ham would affect the outcome of this world’s history, for it was, without doubt, The Serpent Creature’s (Adversary’s) handiwork, through Cain’s descendant, Naamah. So without further ado let’s copy the relevant Scriptures here so that we can analyse them in detail:
Genesis 9:18-27 (MCV) And the sons of Noah, that went forth of The Ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and (Ham is the father of Canaan.) 19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread. 20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: 21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. 22 And Ham, (the father of Canaan), saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. 23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness. 24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. 25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. 26 And he said, Blessed be the YAHAVAH Yah of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. 27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. (Brackets from The CLV translation pointing to the fact that these words are prophetic due to the fact that Canaan was not yet born or that Ham was to become the father of Canaan.)
Now the first thing that becomes apparent in this short passage of Scripture is the mentioning of Ham being Canaan’s father and it’s mentioned twice. Why, why not reveal Ham’s other sons, and why not refer to Shem’s sons as well, and Japheth’s sons? What is so special about this Canaan that he should be singled out and mentioned twice, whilst all the other grandchildren of Noah are ignored completely; what’s it all about? Quite simply, Canaan is a very different ‘grandchild’ altogether and not a grandchild at all in the ordinary sense, and more of that later.
Before I move on, I wish to counter some negative stuff that some commentators have written about Noah and his drunkenness in this story. Let me tell you, their attitude is extremely judgemental, with some of them even suggesting that Noah had become an alcoholic, and that his drunkenness was a regular occurrence. This is stupid arrogant guess-work on their part and, at best, blasphemous conjecture. After the flood Noah became a husbandman, and, amongst other husbandry, had planted a vineyard and was no doubt celebrating the fruits of his labours. All this story line is telling us is that he obviously ended up drinking too much, but this is no reason to label the great man an alcoholic; a man who found Grace in Yashua Messiah’s sight.
None-the-more-for-that, whilst intoxicated, something happens to Noah and this ‘happening’ is so serious that it results in Ham’s son, Canaan, being cursed. This is no light matter when we consider that patriarchs usually like to bless their offspring, not curse them. (Please read the account of Jacob/Israel blessing his two grandsons, Ephraim and Manasseh, in Genesis 48)
This event was tragic and traumatic for all concerned, including Shem and Japheth who had to literally cover their ‘father’s nakedness’. Now this occurrence leaves us with more questions. For instance, what was Ham trying to achieve here by involving his brothers? Did he boast about what he had done? Was this event symbolic of Adam and Eve’s aprons in the Garden? Was he trying to hide his guilt? Was he attempting a ‘cover-up’ – pardon the pun, (just as our corrupt rotten politicians do today when they have been lying) hoping that Noah would not find out?
Notice, too, that it needs both his brothers to carry the covering garment, so we’re not talking about a flimsy single sheet that we would use today to cover one of our modern beds, this was a very wide garment indeed and obviously wide enough to cover two people, and herein lies the first evidence that we are not just dealing with Ham ‘seeing his father’s nudity’ alone.
Here again we have a parallel with the Garden of Eden account, for the punishment does not fit the crime if we take it as it reads. Once again we are dealing with symbolism or turns of phrase that have a deeper or stronger meaning. In this story we are having to focus on the term “uncovered his father’s nakedness” and what it really means, just as we had to take another look at what the Biblical rendering was alluding to when it said that Eve “took of the ‘fruit’ and did eat”.
So what was the real meaning of Ham “uncovering his father’s nakedness?” Fortunately, we don’t have to look outside The Scriptures for the answer of what this phrase means, for it is found within the pages of Leviticus:
Leviticus 18:8 (MCV) The nakedness of thy father’s wife shalt thou not uncover: (Thou shalt not lay with thy mother) it is thy father’s nakedness.
Leviticus 20:11 (MCV) And the man that lieth with his father’s wife hath uncovered his father’s nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
When a man forms a permanent union with a woman they become one flesh in Yah’s sight and The Scriptures from Leviticus cement this view. In the New Testament the Yahavah Yashua Messiah confirms this:
Matthew 19:5-6 (MCV) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall have full union with his wife: and the two shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more two people, but one flesh. What therefore Yah hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
So here we can see the seriousness of Ham’s sin, for he did put asunder the union between his father and his mother. He saw his father’s nakedness by laying with and having incestuous sexual relations with his mother and thereby made her pregnant with Canaan. This is the only explanation there can be for the singling out of Canaan as the recipient of Noah’s curse, and not Ham’s other sons. By doing this, Noah not only punished his son, but he punished his wife too, for no mother wishes to see harm come to her children. Now we know why the covering garment needed two men to carry it, for it obviously covered their mother’s nakedness as well as their father’s. It is also worth mentioning that Noah never knew his wife sexually again after this event.
Now what of the nature of this curse, for it clearly states that Canaan’s descendants would be slaves to Shem’s descendants and slaves to Japheth’s descendants, and, even worse, slaves of slaves. They would also feature big time in the future when Joshua led The Israelites into the land of Canaan and more or less killed them all apart from a few whom they took as slaves:
Joshua 16:10 (MCV) And they drave not out the Canaanites that dwelt in Gezer: but the Canaanites dwell among the Ephraimites unto this day, and serve under tribute.
“The Ephraimites” in this verse represents The Ten Tribes of Israel, not just the tribe of Ephraim alone. Joshua was an Ephraimite. Also, the use of the word Ephraimites is used to differentiate between them and the twelve tribes which would have included Judah and Levi. In particular, though, for us in this later day and age it refers to England, her Commonwealth and Anglo-Saxon peoples of the USA, where the slavery of Canaanites (black people) was at its greatest during the time period of the 16th to the 20th centuries – segregation was a type of slavery or a system where Canaanites were serving under tribute.
How do we know that some of the Canaanites were black people? Easy, Ham in the Egyptian language means ‘brown or reddish brown’ and Cush, one of Ham’s sons, means ‘black’ in the Hebrew language. Ham was also forefather of The Ethiopians and you can’t get any blacker than that.
Now were all Canaanites black; obviously not, because the Romans were descended from Canaan. We then have the Babylonians (modern Italians; the slang for Italians is Ities from the Hitites) who are also swarthy light brown and, notice; all these peoples, predominantly, have black hair.
Then, finally, we have the Canaanite Jews who originate from a forbidden and diabolical union between the patriarch Judah and an Adullamite Canaanitess named Bathshuah, as recorded in Genesis 38. Again, black hair predominates amongst Canaanite Jews or those of the dispersion. Have you ever noticed how the Orthodox Jews, that is, Canaanite Jews always wear black – black suits, black coats and black Homburg hats – just a coincidence? I think not!
Another interesting point is that Canaanite Jews do not even see themselves as white, nor do they want to:
“Jews in America struggled for decades to become white. Now we must give up whiteness to fight racism. Let’s teach our children that we are, in fact, not white, but simply Jewish.
We must cease to consider ourselves to be part of the social construct of whiteness, despite all the white privilege that America affords us, privilege that eluded many of our parents and grandparents. Starting in this new year of 5776, we must teach our children that we are, in fact, not white, but simply Jewish.”
– Gil Steinlauf September 22 2015 Gil Steinlauf is the senior rabbi at Adas Israel Congregation in Washington, D.C.
“If white men were not complaining, it would be an indication we weren’t succeeding and making the inroads that we are.”
— Arthur Sulzberger Jr., Jew owner of The New York Times.
The point I am making here is that there are ‘white’ Canaanites – The Jews, black Canaanites – Africans and there are yellow Canaanites – The Chinese. Canaan’s descendants interbred with all the descendants of Noah. This should not surprise us because the original sin was an act of racial interbreeding, that is, Eve and the Devil – the original parents of Canaan.
As mentioned earlier in this series we have people in Britain and the USA named Cain who are white; even Senator McCain, mentioned in part 3, whose name actually means “son of Cain” who not long ago attempted to reach the Whitehouse in the last election. This evidence alone proves that the line of Cain is still with us today, but do they still carry the ‘Mark of Cain’? Oh yes, most definitely.
OK, to round off, I will return to the point I made earlier about Noah’s sons and grandsons all being of the Sethitic line with one exception and, of course, that one exception was Canaan who carried Cain’s blood through the flood via the evil sin of his parents – Ham and his Cainite mother, Naamah. The Yahavah Yashua Messiah then had to curse Canaan, through Noah, just as he had to curse all of mankind through Adam and Eve’s sin by throwing them out of the Garden of Eden. Bad blood has to carry a curse, for it cannot find favour in The Father’s sight.
As a final point, do not listen to fakestream Christians who will tell you that a curse placed upon a certain individual all those years ago cannot stand today or be applicable to people descended from him, living today, because it does. If this is not so, how is it when I tend my garden I am frequently a victim of thorns, briers and thistles and I perspire profusely across my brow too? How is it also that women still carry the same burden of pain in child birth as did Eve because of her original sin. These things are a good reminder of the fallen condition or of the curses placed upon all mankind – 1,500 years before the curse on Canaan, so don’t listen to any of their intellectual clap trap and pathetic attempts at explaining Biblical Truth away.
Part 5 – Genesis 4:1 Did EVE Really Say: “I have Gotten a MAN From The Lord?”
Introduction:
Now this article should really be Part 5 of my series of articles: “Did Eve Have Sex With The Devil, Or Did She Just Eat Some Fruit?” Moreover, I have dealt with this subject within that series of articles, but due to my having discovered more proof and evidence, this week commencing 13th February 2022, that shows that Genesis 4:1 in its KJV rendering is 100% bunkum and hogwash. It therefore behoved me to share this additional Truth about the damnable translation of this verse.
Here is the bogus verse in question, as written in the KJV:
Genesis 4:1 (KJV) And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from The Lord.
OK, so let me make this known, first of all, for this will be mostly the work of a man by the name of Clifton A. Emahiser who was knowledgable in THE SEEDLINE DOCTRINE, as it is known by some, but not by me, I call it The Two Seeds Truth. Moreover, he wasn’t correct in all his teaching, which I will reveal in another article. So here are his opening remarks on Genesis 4:1:
“THE PROBLEM WITH GENESIS 4:1
“Many may reply, “I didn’t know there was a question concerning that verse.” Unless one understands that the Hebrew is badly corrupted on this passage, he will, like most everyone else who has ever read it, arrive at a mistaken conclusion. Before we start an evaluation to discover the ramifications, let’s read it according to the KJV: “And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
“Genesis 4:1 is probably one of the most misunderstood verses in the Bible. This is really an understatement of fact to say the least. On the understanding of this verse, lies the entire theme of the Bible. Actually Genesis 3:15 is the main theme of the Bible, but without a correct understanding of Genesis 4:1, the theme becomes muddled and confused! Therefore it is of the utmost importance that one gain an understanding of this verse or the entire Bible will remain a mystery! It is with this thought, that the object of this Bible study is to completely master this passage so that the story of the Bible can be opened up to us in all of its splendour and brilliance.”
Later, he then goes on to say:
“It would appear, if this were the only verse in the Bible that had anything to say about this matter of the birth of Cain, and if the King James version of the Bible were the only version of the Bible we had, that we would have to accept the fact that Adam was the father of Cain. You see, here is the problem, Adam was not the father of Cain! Not only are the “Jews” of today not of Adam, but they know themselves they are descended from Cain. Let’s see who the “Jew” admits himself to be. In the “Jewish” publication Liberal Judaism, January, 1949, there is an article entitled, “Liberal Judaism and Israel” written by one of their greatest and most renowned Rabbis, Dr. Abba Hillel Silver. Dr. Silver, writing about the then new State of Israel says:
{“’ … the third commonwealth of the Jewish Nation is thus an accomplished fact. The State of Israel exists.
{“’As a result the concept of the wandering Jew is bound eventually to disappear along with the term (galut) exile. All nations send forth immigrants to all parts of the world. People are continually moving from one country to another, and change their citizenship, but they are not regarded as exiles.
{“’This fact alone – the end of national exile for the Jewish people, as such —is destined to affect favourably the psyche of the Jew throughout the world. It will endow the Jew, wherever he lives, with a self respect and a sense of security, a normal tone, long-wanting in Jewish experience. For the curse of Cain, the curse of being an outcast and a “wanderer” over the face of the earth has been removed …’”}
So here, Emahiser, in using this quote from Rabbi Silver, has proven to us that the Jews KNOW WHO THEY ARE, and that they definitely KNOW who they are descended from, and, just as they knew in the first century, when they lied to Yashua Messiah our future King, when they claimed that: “They were not born of fornication”.
John 8:40-41 (MCV) But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you The Truth, which I have heard of Yah: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to Him, We be not born of fornication; we have one father, even Yah.
Notice, that they did not say they have Abraham as their father, they went straight to The Garden event claiming to be sons of Adam – a part of Yah’s Creation, and thereby denied (they lied) that they were The Adversary’s sons through Cain.
For further evidence, we now go to the immense work called “The Interpreter’s Bible”, which I only learned of at the commencement of this study. The Interpreter’s Bible, is a twelve volume work of 36 editors who worked together in order to produce it. It is available online at this web address:
Here it says this:
“Cain seems originally to have been the ancestor of the Kenites … The meaning of the name is ‘metalworker’ or ‘smith’; here, however, it is represented as a derivation of a word meaning ‘acquire’, ‘get’ – one of the popular etymologies frequent in Genesis – hence the mother’s words I have gotten a man. ‘From the Lord’ (KJV) is a rendering, following the Septuagint (LXX) and Vulgate., of ’eth Yahweh, which is literally, ‘with Yahweh’, and so unintelligible here (the help of [RSV] is not in the Hebrew). It seems probable that ’eth should be ’oth — so, ‘the mark of Yahweh’ — and that the words are a gloss …”
Did you notice that? As Genesis 4:1 is written in the KJV it is taken from the Hebrew term ‘Eth Yahweh’ meaning ‘with Yahweh’ or better ‘laying with Yahweh in order to conceive’ which, as they have correctly said, is unintelligible or utter nonsense, and it is from this very same nonsense that they conjured up the erroneous term: “I have gotten a man from the Lord.”
This can be firmed up from The Geneva Bible where it states:
Genesis 4:1 (Geneva Bible) Afterward the man knew Eve his wife, which conceived and bare Cain, and said, I have obtained a man by the LORD.
This interpretation clearly leads us to believe that Eve lay with The Yahavah in order to conceive, which has already been declared here as preposterous and unintelligible. However, at the same time, it is also telling us that Eve definitely conceived by someone other than Adam!
If we now go to the other writings that I used to support The Truth in my original article, and post them here, we’ll see how they make even more sense now that I have revealed Emahiser’s findings:
First from the Aramaic Targums:
“Genesis 4:1 And the woman saw Sammael, the angel of death, and she was afraid and knew that the tree was good for food, and that it was a remedy for the enlightenment of the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise. She took of its fruit and ate and also gave (it) to her husband and he ate.”
Second from the Aramaic Targum, pseudo-Jonathan:
“Genesis 4:1 Adam knew that his wife Eve had conceived from Sammael the Angel (of death) and she became pregnant and bore Cain. And he was like those on high and not like those below. And she said: ‘I have got a man from the angel of the LORD’.”
Third from the Targum Onkelos: THE TARGUM OF PALESTINE IV:
“Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Hava (Eve) his wife, who had desired (lusted after) the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, (from) the angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, (superfetation) even Habel (Abel). And Habel was a shepherd of the flock, but Kain was a man working in the earth. (All brackets mine)
Fourth from the Rabbinic work of Pirke de Rabbi Eliezer: (See link below.)
“Genesis 4:1 And she saw that his likeness was not of earthly beings, but of the heavenly beings, and she prophesied and said: I have gotten a man from the Lord.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirkei_De-Rabbi_Eliezer
So there we have it, Eve NEVER said “I have gotten a man from the Lord” but rather: “I have gotten a man from the angel of death – The Serpent Creature!!”
I will add further articles to this series as I am sure more evidence will reveal itself.
In Yashua Messiah’s name
Messenger Charles
Links and some additional complimentary reading to the above:
1. Hu; Hu-mans; Cainites; Canaanites; The Serpent Seed:
2. Were Abraham, Isaac and Jacob/Israel, Jews? – The Beginning:
3. The Origins of the Royal Judahites and Canaanite Jews explained:
4. Yashua Messiah (Jesus Christ) was not a Jew:
5. The Jews are The Tares fit only for burning – a real Holocaust!:
6. Salvation Is Of The Jews. Oh really, Is That So!?:
7. Was The Serpent Creature a Beast of The Field?:
8. Why Are There Two Resurrections?
9. Exposing The Lying Blasphemer Bertrand Comparet Parts 1 and 2:
I have also read this article so no need to explain the seedline either, thanks!
No angel including satan can procreate as Jesus clearly inferred here:
Matthew 22:29-30 But Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. (30) For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as angels in heaven.
The “seed” of God is His Word which is the truth:
Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
John 17:17 Sanctify them in the truth: thy word is truth.
The seed of the devil is the opposite of truth which is any lie:
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.
Who said The Serpent was an angel? Not me! Some more education for you:
Exposing The Lucifer Lie And With it, All The Luciferian Myths!:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/exposing-the-lucifer-lie-isaiah-1412-and-with-it-all-the-luciferian-myths-part-1/
These 4 passages should give you enough information to proves satan is a fallen angel:
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, that didst lay low the nations!
Ezekiel 28:13-15 Thou wast in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, the topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was in thee; in the day that thou wast created they were prepared. (14) Thou wast the anointed cherub that covereth: and I set thee, so that thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. (15) Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till unrighteousness was found in thee.
2 Corinthians 11:14-15 And no marvel; for even Satan fashioneth himself into an angel of light. (15) It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also fashion themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works.
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him.
You haven’t read my article on The Lucifer Lie, so you’re wasting my time. The Serpent was NOT an angel – he was a beast of the field and it tells you so in Scripture:
Genesis 3:1 (First Part) Now The Serpent was more subtil (sly, devious and crafty) than any beast of the field which The LORD God had made.
Now go and read my article and educate yourself!
I know the serpent was a beast of the field but that does not mean they procreated anything from which your trying to assume some physical “seed” of satan produced something physical! I read enough of your article to see the error!
So how dumb are you if YOU KNOW that The Serpent was a beast of the field, and fail to register that Truthful fact in your brain!!??
I will also put it to you, as I do all ignorant naysayers, how do you explain away The TWO SEEDS as mentioned in Genesis 3:15? for you have to do that, in order to deny The Truth that TWO SEEDS are a Scriptural fact = his seed and her seed from Adam.
In response to your saying to rlm4765; “Who said The Serpent was an angel? Not me.” You did Charles, when you said it was the devil who had sex with Eve, that “old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan,” Revelation 12:9. So, you can not play it both way’s, only one and that is that, the serpent in the garden was the devil, who was a fallen angel.
You again eh? Just like a dripping tap! LOL
FOR YOUR INFORMATION! The Serpent Creature was a beast of the field who was MADE by Yah (God), and MADE EVIL by Yah (God). He was also a spiritual being who could enter the heavenly realm in order to make war against Yah (God), and from whence he was cast out by the Archangel Michael.
From this event he was seen falling from the heavenly realm – defeated, but he was NOT a fallen angel.
Genesis 3:1 (KJV) Now The Serpent was more subtil (devious and crafty) than any beast of the field which the LORD God HAD MADE.
Exposing The Lucifer Lie And With it, All The Luciferian Myths!:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/exposing-the-lucifer-lie-isaiah-1412-and-with-it-all-the-luciferian-myths-part-1/
Ok I finally got some time to look up your link and discovered your foundation is made from your statement which is totally false!:
“Notice, too, that I say noun, because The Hebrew word that ‘Lucifer’ is translated from is a verb”
The word “lucifer ~ day” is translated from Hebrew masculine noun “hêlēl”:
Bull crap, Lucifer is a LATIN word and has no Hebrew equivalent.
And here is the Hebrew Masoretic Text to prove it:
Isaiah 14:12 (Hebrew Transliteral) How you-fell from heavens howl you son of dawn you-were-hacked-down to the earth one defeating over nations.
NO Lucifer in the Hebrew original text – it ain’t there!! And The Serpent Creature was NEVER the son of the dawn, for he was a beast of the field:
Genesis 3:1 (KJV) Now The Serpent was more subtil (devious and crafty) than any beast of the field which the LORD God HAD MADE.
Created by Yah as a beast of the field and created evil from the beginning, so he never fell – ONLY ADAM FELL.
I see you stripped my last comment of all my points and the links that proved my thesis!
I am not interested in the name “Lucifer” found in the KJV as I use the ASV!:
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, that didst lay low the nations!
Your ‘thesis’ is BS and the translation you’re using is a satanic corruption – an abortion.
I have quoted the Hebrew Transliteral above and the Morning Star is a reference to Adam and Yashua Messiah, for He is The Morning Star.
Revelation 22:16 (KJV) I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in The Churches. I am The Root and the offspring of David, and THE BRIGHT and MORNING STAR.
Only Adam was cut down when he fell – just get it through your thick head.
You need to do a bit more study on the “morning star”!:
Revelation 2:26-29 And he that overcometh, and he that keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give authority over the nations: (27) and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of the potter are broken to shivers; as I also have received of my Father: (28) and I will give him the morning star. (29) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches.
Nonsense, I include that verse in my article too:
Exposing The Lucifer Lie And With it, All The Luciferian Myths!:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/exposing-the-lucifer-lie-isaiah-1412-and-with-it-all-the-luciferian-myths-part-1/
You’re out of steam sonny boy, with an incline fast approaching. The only way for you is backwards and then some swift repentance.
thank you very much.you have analysed it vividly!
You’re welcome and thank you, too, for your comment.
Hello , can you give me your e-mail to ask yousome questions ?
Hello, are they questions of a private and sensitive nature? as I like questions and comments to be made public for educational purposes for other readers.
Thanks
Brother Charles
Fascinating !
Question: Looking at the Cain descendants and Seth descendants – both lines had Enoch, and both lines had Methusael who born Lamech ? It is not coincidence. What do you think about it ?
Hi, yes there is stuff to research there, which I have not yet done and because of all the corruptions, elsewhere in The KJV, it behoves us to be thorough in checking all things out. Give me a few days and I will come back on it.
Thanks again for contributing to the conversation.
I love it.
when are you going to write a bible with the corrections needed.I would like the first copy.
I have considered it, but it would be too big a work for me and I don’t think there is enough time left for the job to be completed.
Due to the massive increase in worldwide evil since 9/11, especially against children, I believe His return is imminent. “Suffer (allow) the little children to come unto me.” Not long now.
Thanks for your contribution.
I pray for the children every night, and for all those who are working to rescue them. I agree, it seems there’s not much time left.
I agree and believe Jesus is coming in 2027 a Jubilee year which is exactly 2000 years since Jesus started preaching the new covenant.
I think it will be 2031 which is 2,000 years since His death and resurrection, but don’t quote me as I am not a prophet. 2027 will most likely be the year the congregation of God is carried off on the wings of a great eagle to a place of safety in the wilderness for three and a half years. Much symbolism here I think.
The Two Witnesses will also start their work in 2027 I believe.
Thanks for the ..Reinforcement
You are very welcome and thanks for your comment.
Here is a little twist on the story.
A little leaven (sin) leads to more and more sin.
So Eve eats the apple and does not drop dead and then Adam eats as well.
Now that Satan has there confidence he introduces them to sex.
Heck if this went on long enough he might even trick us into believing he is God.
The ‘apple’ is the pornographic sex and the pornographic sex is the ‘apple’ – forbidden fruit – all symbolic or metaphor.
Satan IS the god of this world – he offered it to Yashua Messiah when he tempted Him.
Satan’s deception is TOTAL with the exception of those The Father has called to His Son and opened their eyes to Satan’s deception.
Thanks for the comment.
Okay so what exactly did God say to Adam and Eve about not having sex with a stranger.Seeing how they would not even know about set.
Look up the word LUST and we are not given the details of what God said to them in detail as He walked regularly in The Garden with them. I am sure it was NOT repeating the forbidden fruit mantra. Try using your imagination.
Hi, I was wondering if you’ve covered the ‘Beast of the Field’ on your site, they are obviously tied into this topic, but do you cover them specifically. Thanks
No I don’t buy into the Genesis 1 & 2 dual creation stuff. Eve was the MOTHER OF ALL LIVING and the Flood was worldwide, not localised.
Hi “MOTHER OF ALL LIVING” good point’ are we sure they aren’t dead LoL. I just can’t see why they are mentioned in that manner in Scripture, thanks for your reply.
Hi Chris,
All Cain’s descendants died in the flood with the exception of Noah’s wife, Naamah. Her name is written in the Book of Jasher.
However it was Noah that carried Adam’s bloodline which he passed on to his three sons Shem (whites) Ham (browns and blacks) and Japheth (yellow and slit eyed) .
As I stated the problems arose when Ham slept with his mother and sired Canaan whom Noah cursed. Canaan brought Cain’s blood back to life. Canaan’s then sired offspring through Shem’s, Ham’s and Japheth’s offspring producing all colours of Canaanites.
Hello,
I’m just curious why all of Noah’s children aren’t considered descendants of Cain if thier mother was. How is it that just Hams offspring are considered that? I know they would have more of Cains blood in them since Hams mother was “bred” back to her son. I know you said that it went by the Father’s line and not the mothers, wouldn’t it be the same for Ham? Technically it shouldn’t have mattered who the mother of his children were. Just curious.
I sent your teaching to some family members and they were not receptive of it. They said it was a false teaching and that I better watch out as in the end times there will be false teachers… it’s a shame that some people are so closed minded. My mother said it made her want to throw up. Maybe that’s why it was put into metaphor… for people like her… but if we were taught this from the beginning it wouldn’t be a problem!
Thanks for the teaching, I look forward to reading more.
Hello Roxanne,
Because Noah carried the Adamic BLOOD line which he gave to his three sons with Shem being the premier son (White) like Adam & Eve.
Ham was reddish brown and Japheth was yellow and slit eyed but they were still Adamic.
Ham’s offspring from his wife were NOT cursed, only his offspring (Canaan) from his mother (Naamah) was cursed. Canaan having been conceived through incestuous sex brought Cain’s BLOOD back to life AFTER the flood. ALL Cain’s previous offspring died in the flood – Noah’s wife was the only survivor of Cain and her Cainite blood would have remained dormant had she not sinned with her son Ham and produced Canaan.
Re your family, I am saddened to hear of their responses, but I would not expect them to be receptive to The Truth if they are mainstream, so called, Christians. They much prefer the ear-tickling lies of the Cainite-Judeo-Christian RELIGION, to The Truth of The Holy Scriptures.
Thank you for your questions and your comment.
Brother Charles
I don’t know about this seed line doctrine. I been doing some studying,and I believe eve had sex with a black person.
What ever ,the proof is she did a sexual sin of some sort.
Adam was the first man and Eve was the first woman and they were white. Eve was the mother of all living which means ALL humanoids = mankind and hu-man kind.
The races or ethnic groups we know today stem from the miscegenation between Eve and the Serpent creature producing Cain and then later between the fallen angels and Adam’s daughters.
This interbreeding caused birth defects to occur, hence we now have yellow skinned slit eyed people and browns and blacks.
The Scriptures call this CONFUSION and it is not just confusion in racial differences and skin colours but a confusion in BLOODS.
Why must you slander people for their wrong choices. God does not want us to act like the accuser.
What, like this do you mean?
John the Baptist:
Matthew 3:7 (KJV) But when he (John) saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation (offspring or race) of vipers (snakes or reptiles), who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? (Brackets mine)
Yashua Messiah:
Matthew 12:34 (KJV) O generation (offspring or race) of vipers (snakes or reptiles), how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. (Brackets mine)
Matthew 23:33 (KJV) Ye SERPENTS, ye generation (offspring or race) of vipers (snakes or reptiles), how can ye escape the damnation of hell? (Brackets and emphasis mine)
John 8:44 (KJV) Ye are of your father The Devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Hi,
Just found your site.
I have a question, How does the devil had access to the the garden of Eden. Why did he had acces at all ?
Hi
Welcome.
Because God put him in there. Sin had to enter into the world in order for Yashua Messiah to come and redeem mankind.
Yashua Messiah was The Lamb slain from before the foundation of the world:
Revelation 13:8 (KJV) And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him (Satan), whose names are not written in The Book of Life of The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Thank you for your question.
Thanks for your welcome
This seems strange to me that God so consciously puts the devil there in anticipation that the young and naive Eva are tempted.
Eve is actually the victim so that the human being can be saved
This does not fit in the character of God to expose her to it.
There must be another explanation
Even an earthly father does not allow his naive daughter to be seduced but protects her against that.
You’re welcome.
You have forgotten Adam. Eve was not alone and it was Adam’s role to look after his wife – to guard and protect her. Marriage in the old fashioned sense as it was always meant to be. Eve was created to be a help-meet to Adam so in turn Adam should have been the proper nurturing loving husband.
Are you perhaps looking at this through modern spectacles with a so called liberated (enslaved) woman’s perspective, where she wears the trousers and makes the decisions and not her emasculated man? I am not saying you are, I am just asking because this erroneous modern way of thinking seems to be all pervasive these days.
The other explanation is that the buck (overall responsibility) stopped at Adam’s desk, not Eve’s. He should have been keeping a watchful and protective eye on his wife, but he failed to do that.
This, too, is based upon the Biblical perspective of the woman being the weaker vessel and needing the protection and guidance of a strong loving man = the opposite of the thinking of modern society.
I found my answer , why satan was in the garden of Eden.
Ezekiel 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of God
Ezekiel 28:14 “You were the anointed cherub who covers, and I (God) placed you there.
After satan lost his authority , Adam was put in charge of the garden to rule over it. Genesis 1:26
But satan stil could enter/be in the garden, cause God had placed him there long time ago.
About the position of men and women you referred to.
Genesis 1:26-31
1:26 Then God said, “Let us make humankind in Our image, after Our likeness on the earth.”
27 God created humankind in His own image, in the image of God He created them, male and female He created them.
Gen 2:21
And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; Rib, side.
Gen 2 :22 And the rib- side, which the Lord God had taken from man, made He a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Humankind on Our image man and woman. That means man and woman were in one body.
Later as Adam missed his other part, God split from Adams side the femine part out of Adam. Eve was the solution to Adam’s deficiency.
And then there is a man and a woman. Adam and Eve.
Gen 2:18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
John H. Walton explanes it beautiful
The word translated “helper” is the Hebrew term ‘ezer “helper”, not as a position of subservience but the The concept of an “ideal partner”
Not intended to be each other’s rivals but to complement each other so that they are again that one unity.
The second important Hebrew word in this verse, translated “fit” is kenegdow. It literally means “according to the opposite of him.” In other words, the focus is on an appropriate match. Eve was not created above or below Adam; she was complementary. The animals Adam had named each had an appropriate companion (Genesis 2:20), and Adam was given a fitting companion as well. Eve was “just right” for him.
Further, God’s statement that it was not good for man to be alone implies that Adam was lonely and incomplete by himself. He had been created for relationship, and it is impossible to have relationship alone. With the creation of Eve, Adam experienced the joy of love for another person.
The Bible is unique in its depiction of women’s valued status as a complementary companion. No other ancient text from the Middle East offers commentary on the creation of women. It is in the Bible that we learn of the important role women have had since the beginning of human existence. Both man and woman were made in God’s image, according to Genesis 1:27, “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.”
The apostle Paul refers to Genesis when he says, “A man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh” (Ephesians 5:31). Husband and wife are to live as one, united in love for God and for one another, modeling the love Christ has for His bride, the Church.
– end explenation of John H. Walton
The whole concept of feminism today has arisen in ancient times from the strong male culture that brought the woman’s suppression as a submissive maid.
This carnal mindset in ancient times about women was never meant by God but is a mindset inspired by Satan.
Today, you still see the consequences of that in heavy religious churches.
The World in which we live today has/had male and female leaders, like Margareth Thatcher and Theresa May, that has nothing to do with feminism. It has to do what you are called for. That may be a house wife to take care of the childeren, a leader of a country, a woman that works and brings the money in and te houseman is taking care of the children.
It does not matter.
What matters is the intention of the heart , is it pride or is it serviceable with integrity to what you are called for.
Unfortunately you have not found the answer. Ezekiel 28 is a reference to Adam, not Satan, which I explain here:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/exposing-the-lucifer-lie-isaiah-1412-and-with-it-all-the-luciferian-myths-part-1/
Genesis 1:26 says man, not hu-mankind, so you need to throw that erroneous Bible translation away.
A man is NOT a hu-man, ‘hu’ from the Hebrew/Gaelic, Hebrew Old English means ‘serpent’ so a hu-man is a serpent man not a man. Hu-man beings are the descendants of Satan with Eve and are primarily three ethnic groups: The Jews (white Canaanites) – the African negroes (black Canaanites) and the Chinese (yellow Canaanites).
Mankind is descended from Adam and Eve hence Yashua Messiah is specifically known as THE SON OF MAN!! to let you know He was NOT a hu-man.
I did not say subservient – that’s your word not mine but women are to be submissive so I suggest you look up the words in a dictionary and compare the difference.
To be ruled by women is a curse not a blessing which Isaiah makes clear here:
Isaiah 3:12 (KJV) As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
With the fall of Adam and Eve, Eve lost any equality she formally had with Adam. Read this and keep reading it until the reality of the fallen condition of women has registered with you:
Genesis 3:16 (KJV) Unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Any form of feminism or a woman aspiring to be equal with her man or her wearing the trousers is a rebellion against God and a usurpation of the man’s authority.
Hi Charles,
Eve was created after the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was put in the garden, so how does that work if the tree represents sex? Adam was all by himself in verse 7 with the trees and Eve didn’t come along until verse 21.
Thanks,
James
Gen 2:7-9
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.8 The LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed.9 And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
NKJV
Gen 2:15-17
15 Then the LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it.16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”
NKJV
Gen 2:21-22
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place.22 Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.
NKJV
Hello James
Adam and Eve had not had sex until Eve had sex with the Devil. Had Adam and Eve had sex before that event there would have been offsping and there were no offspring until Cain and Abel. That’s how it worked.
Brother Charles
Thank you Charles, but what’s confusing to me is that God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden BEFORE Eve was created and instructed Adam to stay away from that tree, so the point is that the tree must have been a literal tree…not a metaphor for a sexual act. Eve was created AFTER the tree was put in the garden, so I’m having a difficult time understanding why God would tell Adam to stay away from a tree if the tree represents sex, especially when there was no woman yet?
“Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;17 >>> but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, <<< (EVE WASN'T THERE YET) for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”
Thank you
The stage was set and likewise the Tree of Life was there, too, and Adam could not partake of that tree until Eve was created and procreation (LIFE) could begin.
Can you provide a source for where hu is hebrew for serpent ? I wasn’t able to find any
You won’t find any because it’s not modern Hebrew. Modern Hebrew is nothing like the ancient Rhunic Hebrew that over the centuries later became the British Gaelic and Old English tongues. ‘Hu’ being ‘Serpent’ is from those ancient Hebraic languages, not modern Hebrew.
The modern Hebrew Biblical texts date from as late as circa 1,000 AD so they are quite modern as languages go. The Greek Septuagint Old Testament, (The Scripture quotes that Yashua Messiah used in the NT) in contrast, dates from circa 300 BC.
“If a child in our care were to not follow our instruction for the first time would we lash out with a severe punishment at their first mistake? Obviously not, so why did The Lord Yashua Messiah punish our original parents so severely for eating the wrong kind of ‘apple’? OK, I know it doesn’t say apple, but it might just as well say it. Therefore, does this apparent trivial mistake and the punishment that follows make any sense or, in other words, does the punishment fit the crime?”
Does this explain why our culture is so quick to mete out harsh punishments, or why people will accept harsh punishments willingly?
No, Satan controls this world, not God, and they accept his rulership and his injustice and, in most cases, without question.
“Strong’s Hebrew Ref: H2233 seed – zera – zeh’-rah – From H2232; seed; figuratively fruit, plant, sowing time, posterity: – X carnally, child, fruitful, seed (-time), sowing-time.”
Pherez and Zerah
Seed. ?
A good point and yes very likely because Judah knew that he had screwed up (pun intended) with his whoring around with the Adullamites daughter and had produced three miscegenated bastards through her and through Tamar he now had HIS SEED Pharez and Zerah.
In Strong’s he even tries to hide it with this benign but deceptive definition:
H2226
זרח
zerach
zeh’-rakh
The same as H2225; Zerach, the name of three Israelites, also of an Idumaean and an Ethiopian prince: – Zarah, Zerah.
“Furthermore, it was this act that gave them the knowledge of good and evil, not through the literal eating of an ‘apple’, the fruit is pure symbolism. Not only that, if we think the literal eating of fruit from the wrong tree can make us feel dirty, unclean and shameful what kind of fruit could that be.”
Great point!
Thanks
But Cain was a tiller of the ground….
… in the tradition of his father who shall eat dust all his days?
Yes.
“the Aramaic Targums are ancient Jewish writings dating from around the time of the Jews captivity in Babylon, so this means they date from around 550 BC. ”
Would these be the descendants of Bathshuah; Canaanite Jews?
Of course and the authors of The Satanic Talmud which in turn became the Protocols of the Elders of Zion = Zionism and their plans for White Genocide.
This hatred stems from the beginning with Cain’s hatred for his white half-brother Abel and then carried forward in time to Shelah’s jealous hatred toward Pharez and Zarah. This hatred is inbred into them.
Are they basically telling a lie suggesting they are from the House of Judah, knowing that most people won’t have done the work you have to spot the two lines one Canaanite the other Judahite/Tamar?
How do we know that none of Pherez’ or Zerah’s progeny did not become “Jews” and follow the Torah or Talmud?
Absolutely and well deduced, hence anti-Semitism is a lying scam with regard to the Jews and many of them know it.
Some Judahites have succumbed or they have been conned. The Queen is Matron/Patron of Jew controlled Freemasonry and the Duke of Kent is a high ranking Freemason.
Harry Boy tucks his hand in his jacket – sure fire sign of a Freemason – they have sold out.
However, whether they are Talmudic Jews re their religion, that is, Jew converts, I am not so sure. They certainly do what the Rothschilds tell them to do or they’re in deep do-do so they are prisoners in that sense.
So, if you had all the gold in the world and DNA tests were worth a tinkers dam you’d be putting it on all “Jews” of the world being genetic descendants of Bathshuah? If yes how has everybody become so lost and confused about who is who? Did they basically start the lie straight off; are we into revenge of the bastards here? Does Dommergue know?
VENGEANCE IS MINE SAITH THE LORD!!
You’re speaking of matters not within my remit OR MY CONTROL. Yashua Messiah KNOWS who they are – ALL OF THEM and will deal with them upon His return. There will be no escape, even if they hide in their underground bunkers.
I am just here as a witness and a messenger of The Truth and The Truth is Yashua Messiah.
People have become lost and confused, because they have rejected God and have, in many ways, become ignorant beasts – worse than the animal kingdom, who know no better.
Following on in Genesis 4 what’s with Jubal and the harp and the pipe?
JEWbaal and his fellow Cainites were big into musical instruments for their Devil worship – pre-flood heavy metal.
For some reason I see Scottish bag pipes, and Jubal has a familiar ring to it but I can’t place it; is it also from whence Jubilee comes from?
Speaking of Duke of Kent is Kent a Cain derivative?
Oh yes Cain’s and therefore Canaan’s musical abilities and skills have swamped the earth, hence so many Jews are concert pianists and orchestra conductors etc – just as an example.
The Ancient Israelites would not have been exempt from these musical influences hence King David was a very good harpist.
Kent gets its name from The Kenites (a tribe of the Canaanites) who became involved with Ancient Israel from the time of Moses and followed the Israelites wherever they went. They were friendly toward Israel so were allowed to stay and not cast out.
However their influences were not good hence the King of Kent (Kent was a separate kingdom in England at that time) welcomed Augustine and his fellow papists into Kent, circa 600 AD, and thereby giving these evil satanists a foothold in Saxon and Celtic Britain.
Well that’s interesting – that’s my last name!🙃
It is, especially if you are being called – very interesting indeed.
Any truth to the idea that Moses father-in-law was a Kenite?
Yes, Jethro was a Kenite.
Any thoughts on the name Deacon?
No, other than the hierarchal religious connotations attached to the word.
So I’m part Canaanite. Hmmm
I’m beginning to feel like a character out of a Bugs Bunny cartoon that lives on the wrong side of the tracks but has front rows seats; understands the truth of boogie woogie, smokey rooms, Voodoo and cigars, but has had enough of all the lies.
Feelings and tracks have nothing to do with it. As I said, only YOU can determine whether or not The Father is calling you to His Son Yashua Messiah.
Charles,
why are there 2 creations in Genesis: 1:26 (and why the use of replenish the earth was it previously destroyed – are we into Hinduism here and several reincarnations row hat is going on???), and 2:7? What’s going on with that?
In very broad strokes, Genesis 1 is an overview, Genesis 2 is the detail. There was only ONE CREATION.
I do not see the word ‘replenish’ in Genesis 1:26. Where did you get that from?
“And God blessed them; and God said unto them: ‘Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; ”
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/e/et/et0101.htm
Ah Genesis 1:27. Replenish is a bad translation:
Replenish
H4390
מלא מלא
mâlê’ mâlâ’
maw-lay’, maw-law’
A primitive root, to fill or (intransitively) be full of, in a wide application (literally and figuratively): – accomplish, confirm, + consecrate, be at an end, be expired, be fenced, fill, fulfil, (be, become, X draw, give in, go) fully (-ly, -ly set, tale), [over-] flow, fulness, furnish, gather (selves, together), presume, replenish, satisfy, set, space, take a [hand-] full, + have wholly.
It can FIGURATIVELY mean ‘replenish’ IF the translators are attempting to colour it in some way, but the prime meaning is FILL the earth.
So, what of the idea that in the first Creation these were the primitive tribal people with us still today, created like the Serpent as hominids, and perhaps regarded as animals taken into the ark as such?
Did you know that until 1970, Aborigines were classified as flora and fauna in listed in the national Parks of Australia?
The so-called first creation is lying satanic garbage – A GROSS DECEPTION – forget it!
EVE WAS THE MOTHER OF ALL LIVING, THAT IS, THE MOTHER OF ALL TWO LEGGED UPRIGHT BEINGS – keep saying it until it has sunk in!!
LOL I couldn’t care less what dumb, ignorant know-nothing intellectuals call things. Academics (Aca-DEMON-ics) are there to be ignored or laughed at = treated with utter contempt!!
God created the garden and placed man in it. He told him not to eat of the Tree in the middle/ of knowledge but Eve didn’t exist yet. What was he talking about then???
Seems a bit odd God would create a Satan/Serpent knowing it would be a testing foil for man’s development to then make some big bonfire for the spawn thereof at Revelation.
Eve was Adam’s responsibility. Eve was not an uppity useless feminist dyke amazon with a rubber dick strapped on – she was created a REAL USEFUL WOMAN and a HELPMEET for Adam, but also in need of Adam’s MASCULINE (non-faggotty) care AND ATTENTION!!
I have already explained that Yashua Messiah was THE LAMB SLAIN FROM BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, so sin HAD TO ENTER INTO THE WORLD through The Serpent creature in order for prophesy to be fulfilled and God’s plan come to fruition!
You must learn these IMPORTANT foundational basics and give less attention to trivial points about where Judahites went after the fall of Jerusalem.
I inquire for two different sets of reasons.
One is to help friends understand the fraud that is Israel today, and I’d like as much info on that as possible.
Two is to unfold understanding of the bigger picture for mine own development. Where can I find the lamb slain before the foundation of the world?
So, what was God saying to Adam before the Creation of Eve? What did it mean ” ‘Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.’ clearly before Eve was created?
You said: “Where can I find the lamb slain before the foundation of the world?”
You don’t, The Father finds you and draws (drags) you to The Lamb (Yashua Messiah).
Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
The WOMAN Eve was always in the picture beforehand so the instructions predated her creation.
Try seeing it from the Godhead’s perspective who reside outside of TIME! Or let’s put it another way, there is no time in eternity.
What I meant was do you have a blog post on the idea; I’ve never heard of it before.
Not as yet. Perhaps I will.
You need to calm down and take it easy on the capital letters and exclamation marks. They equal yelling in text language. You have before you an inquiring student. Try to be a teacher not a judge, jury and executioner. Where were you a few years ago?? Have some respect.
Oh I am seldom very calm when fired up for this ALL IMPORTANT MATTER is TOO SERIOUS a matter to be prancing around the edges, that is wishy washy, mealy mouthed or liberal. The CAPS represent a raised voice for emphasis on certain words as preachers often do – especially if the learner appears not to be getting it. If I were shouting, ALL my replies would be in ALL-CAPS.
Likewise, I would ask you to respect The Truth that most people I deal with are time wasters and want to ‘teach’ me (argue) or think that they can. This you will learn yourself through experience when dealing with such creatures.
Now, I am not saying that you have apart, perhaps, from the Edomite Jew thing where it seemed you were trying to convince me rather than just being an inquiring student.
I would also ask you to understand that many mainstream fake Christians play that inquiring student game, whilst looking all the while to trap me or trip me up. Just as this bod tried to do here to The Lord:
Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in The Law?
HOWEVER! Now that you have expressed an interest in getting Baptised, I am now more certain that you’re sincere – up until that very point I had no idea what your agenda was = a head knowledge seeker (the time wasting majority) or a heart knowledge seeker (a tiny minority).
You have my respect!!
The heart seeking is a challenge. When I think about receiving the Holy Spirit I just weep; can’t cry enough.
I understand you must deal with any number of complete douchebags who attack you and more all day perhaps, from my end my caution is in trusting YOU, many snakes out there pedalling rubbish ands nonsense. So yes, some probing questions, but no I am not here to attack you or inquire for head knowledge only.
The Edomite thing was exactly a geopolitical; how to rebut all the mainstream yak?? At any rate, with almost every passing day I am beginning to realise I don’t know anybody who understands and I’m not contemplating straightening them out anymore.
When you say: “the heart seeking is a challenge” can you explain what you mean by that?
Well by now you should KNOW, for I KNOW no one who teaches what I teach (I am not saying that they are not out there). THIS is not a BOAST but, rather, a Statement of TRUTH, for ALL my boasting is in Yashua Messiah, not in myself, just as Paul would have said.
I also charge no money, all I do is FREELY GIVEN, nor do I require any membership as with many Canite-Judeo-Christian Religious groups (Cults).
As I frequently make plain, I would be out there smoking, boozing and chasing after other men’s wives, if I were not called and chosen to do HIS TEACHING and make HIS TRUTH known to men and women.
You said: “I am beginning to realise I don’t know anybody who understands.”
Well you do now! LOL Unless you meant present company excepted.
I just mean opening the heart. It happens, but I suppose I have always been more mental a personal than readily emotional. When it happens I can’t speak. It’s probably like watching a cartoon character booming a pool of tears LOL
I suppose it is somewhat like the simple struggle people have to cry at a loved one’s funeral, this process of letting the heart open, for our culture seems so bent on praising the strong mind and not being emotional.
It’s far more than emotion. Emotionalism can be a trap or a deception – a slippery path. Mainstreamers are BIG on EMOTION, especially Charismatics who love their ‘arms in the air’ emotive pop music along with their vain repititive syrupy words = a form of herd instinct hysteria.
In a real Christian’s life the emotion MAY follow, if you are emotional, some people are not emotional. Invariably, emotionalism is just shallow sentimentality and can mean nothing at any DEEP LEVEL unless meaningful actions or changes have preceded it in their lives (repentance).
This is about total surrender – giving up your old life completely, that is, EVERYTHING that you have previously valued and considered as important, and as Paul said: “Count it all as dung (shit).”
This is the problem the wealthy young ruler had. In his case it was great wealth, but it could have been anything e.g. unsavoury friends, religion, way of life, close associations with the world – anything that he wanted to keep hold of as important in his life.
Thinking on these things takes time, hence I emphasised the private meditation.
Thanks for that clarification. I’m not into all that emotionalism and the nonsense they used to broadcast on TV – knew they were kooks from the get goes. In the past it has only come when it ever did, and was nothing I could conjure or control, but I suppose at some point I assumed I had tapped a geyser and that I always had to have such a reaction.
I’m getting a wee soupcon of what you probably endure having stuck my neck out on a couple of issues. These die-hards who have been brainwashed into their religion are tough nuts to crack!
You won’t crack them unless The Father is calling them. If He is, then they will automatically be receptive to what you have to say.
Otherwise the immovable, God sent, STRONG DELUSION will be entrenched, active and operational in their minds.
2 Thessalonians 2:10-11 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of The Truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them STRONG DELUSION, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE A LIE:
Cool. So you can wind right up and whack ’em as hard as you like? LOL
Not unless they ask for it, that is, if they challenge you with their blasphemous nonsense.
If they are not bothering you then leave them be, as you would pigs wallowing in their mire.
Changing focus here, how can we account for the Garden of Eden being described as matches today’s Mesopotamia, when this would have been before the flood? Wouldn’t the great flood have caused more violent geographic upheaval? How does the ark land back in the same area? Divine intervention?
The earth divided at this point in time here and it was post-flood:
Genesis 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan.
Much of the area that was once The Garden was flooded by the Persian Gulf.
First time caller, long time listener. This is fascinating. I have learned so much from your blog & by reading the comments. Thank you so much. As fast as the symbolism of the tree, eating, fruit—it makes me want to do a word study & cross reference these words/symbols in Song of Solomon b/c it is a romantic book. Also I want to study if He said do not eat or do not touch. Finally, your explanation of the meaning of Cain & the variations of the word is mind blowing. It made me think of the word Cannon. I love the Father and am a believer in His Truth.
Hi AA,
You’re welcome and glad to be of service – I am also glad to hear that you love The Father and you’re believer in The Truth.
Thank you, too, for your positive comment.
Messenger Charles
Oh and as a PS I think you’ll find it was all about eating not just touching.
‘’That it was good for FOOD ‘ doesn’t sound like sex to me. Food is something we consume and eat for nourishment. Just in truth. It is what it is. Get it right.
Feel free to explain the TWO SEEDS, but keep it short – boring know-nothing numbskulls, once they get going with all their ignorant explaining away BS, always send me to sleep.
Oh and for ‘FOOD’ look up the words ‘metaphorical’ and ‘symbolism’ = knowledge is food!
Hi, want to say Thank you for your explanation of the garden and everything else. I knew a long time ago even as a child growing up that the story of Cain n Abel I heard in church was rubbish and that the devil had to be in there somewhere but I will continue to read and follow. Keep up the Good Work.
Hi,
Yes, sadly, the satanic opinions of men with their worldly religious agenda(s) and, intellectual vanity, have polluted God’s Holy Word, in many places, whilst they translated it into English.
Many thanks for your encouraging comment.
Brother Charles
Is this why the Masons wear aprons then? Is not their religion G for generative power through the copulative act?
I have no idea. All I know about the Freemasons is their subversive activities, that is, divide and rule chaos creation in order to rise like a phoenix out of the ashes of that chaos in order to start their New World Order.
Fortunately, Yashua Messiah has other plans and will bring to nought all their plans.
OK.
Now, not a word of a lie, I had a hiccup with the 1st Baptist Church and found a 2nd. I was invited last Sunday to come say “hello”, so I went. I arrived a bit late, and just after I sat down they got into the days reading Romans 1-6. They went through the whole thing and I thought, wow, this is too much it could be Charles up there. Then 2 blokes came up to testify because they were soon to be baptised. So I was invited down to the river for the baptism. And there, it all fell flat like a souffle. They were baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and they went under the water just once with no laying on of hands. So close, yet so far!
I’m going to have a chat with the pastor when he comes back from Christmas break. I’ll keep you posted.
Very interesting.
They only need to go under the water once, but do need the laying on of hands to receive The Holy Spirit afterwards, which it looks like they failed to do along with Baptising into the trinity. That is not good.
Many thanks for the update.
10-4.
So, verbal then hands then under the water – what is the order?
No, that’s the wrong way round. You really need to know what you are doing. This is not some meaningless religious ritual that you are undertaking – IT HAS REAL MEANING – SOMETHING TREMENDOUS IS OCCURRING WITHIN YOU – SO YOU MUST UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING!!!!
1) THE OLD MAN OF SIN DIES FIRST in the watery grave of Baptism = YOU DIE WITH YASHUA MESSIAH.
2) You are raised out of the water (a TYPE of resurrection or a shadow of the resurrection) with Yashua Messiah – A NEW MAN WASHED CLEAN and ready to receive the Holy Spirit. This is why it is CRUCIAL that hands are laid upon you STRAIGHT AWAY in order to be fully regenerated and BORN OF GOD.
DO YOU NOW UNDERSTAND? – Do not do this unless you do. You also need to be ready for any questions the pastor may ask of you. IF he’s doing his job properly he should be quizzing you to see if YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!!! what you’re doing.
Have you admitted to The Father in your prayers that you are a sinner and are in need of His forgiveness and Yashua Messiah’s redemption. You MUST do this at home before the event. Everything must be clear in your heart and in your mind so that you go forward in CONFIDENCE!!
Let me know if there’s anything else you’re unsure about.
Brother Charles
LOL! This is almost an absurdist comedy. All these pastors and none know what they are doing. How did you find this process out???
Yes, what you instruct makes perfect sense. Is there anything that needs to be said prior to being immersed in water?
All the examples needed for Baptism are in the Holy Scriptures. Have you read my articles on the subject? If not, then I suggest you do so.
If the pastor you mentioned does not lay on hands to receive The Holy Spirit then avoid him like the plague, for he obviously hasn’t a clue.
Hmm, that’s interesting Charles, very interesting. I’ve read, and thoroughly enjoyed almost all of your articles now – I’m waiting for more!
Obviously the specifics on baptism there have eluded me and I’ll have to go back for a more thorough look.
Here are the two main ones:
Understanding The Crucial Importance of Baptism Including What Baptism Is Not
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/understanding-the-crucial-importance-of-baptism-including-what-baptism-is-not/
Should Christians Be Baptised Into Yashua Messiah’s (Jesus Christ’s) Name Alone?
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/should-christians-be-baptised-into-yashua-messiahs-the-lord-jesus-christs-name-alone-part-1/
Thanks Charles.
I read the second last night and also the one about fire.
I’ll look forward to understanding the crucial…
Thanks Charles,
I’ve now read them all. However, I fear I’m a bit retarded and need “The Idiot’s Guide To Baptism”. I don’t need the conceptual explained, that is all clear as day, but the procedural ie:
Step 1) do x
Step 2) do y
Step 3) do z
etc
when do what wordsd get said in relation to dying in the watery grave and having hands laid on? Are the hands laid on the head, or forehead. It is the technical details I am lost about.
Regards,
Edward
Hi Edward,
The ‘words’ and ‘steps’ as such are out of your hands other than your stipulation that your Baptism be into Yashua Messiah’s (Jesus Christ’s) name alone and not into the Trinity.
I would take a list of the Holy Scriptures that make it plain to prove that you know what you are talking about.
The baptiser should know his job and you as the baptisee should question him to make sure that he does.
It’s not complicated 1) Into the water full immersion 2) Out of the water and laying on of hands on your head to receive the Holy Spirit.
Regards
Brother Charles
Thanks Charles. I sometime experience paralysis through analysis!
Regarding scripture I have already laid out such a sheet, but I was wondering of there were a particular verse that notes the laying on of hands?
Regards,
Edward
One can over-do study as with prayer. Here a LITTLE, there a LITTLE. There’s no rush, so pace yourself.
All the verses are in my article about being Baptised in Jesus Christ’s name alone, read them slowly and carefully.
Regards
Brother Charles
PS. I’ve just discovered Bible Hub, which makes no sense – 33 versions! How Masonic.
Can you recommend and particular one to read, or for any particular passages?
Thanks.
Oh yes, VERY Masonic.
Apart from the KJV, all I use is The Living Bible (frowned upon by many in the fake church = too much Grace in its interpretations of some verses) and The Amplified Bible, but only very occasionally when I need the KJV old English grammar unravelled.
Your welcome
Brother Charles
Hi shakingthespear “Is this why the Masons wear aprons then? Is not their religion G for generative power through the copulative act?”
If Charles will permit me I can explain the Freemasons origins and infiltration and their part in the end times and the world today in general. It might take me sometime to write it out though. It’s one of my specialty subjects.
Hi Chris,
Yes, go ahead, as long as you don’t post links to the ‘Edomite Jew’ liars.
Well, that’s up to Charles I suppose but ok by me. Thanks Chris.
Hi Charles and shakingthespear. I suppose a picture speaks a thousand words. I suspect Charles may have seen some of these already!
http://api.ning.com/files/SYEzmNvic*hUzRYQ2w72ycr8IgQo4WFEib33li*s8LIMxxpF29rddMFFPgr3bEiZjInBLYclowFeMoY11w1988vNxbBxeyGS/olympic_phoenix.jpg?width=699&height=522
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dzTfI0xh4Dg/Wgsa0L0doeI/AAAAAAAATSM/hSCSnU7s2-osnIVi_J6-syaMJ-OzMSW_wCLcBGAs/s1600/Rise%2Bof%2Bthe%2BPHOENIX%2B-%2BNWO.jpg
“Controlling people through sex” That about sums it up and well explains the G…
Genes, genetics, genitals, gender, generation.
PS Hey Charles, had a funny moment yesterday when a friend explained the theme for their upcoming party “for all time.” People can dress from any era. So apparently one person is going as Adam, with leaves covering his bits. I thought how amazing that people get the sex aspect of it unconsciously, but then get lead off into total nonsense!
Happy New Year
Hi Edward,
Oh yes, there’s nowt so queer as folk.
Did you get any further with that pastor?
All the best
Charles
Thanks Charles,
He is on holiday but did leave a message before going away. I expect I’ll hear from him in due course.
In the meantime, as a side note, what is this guy talking about at 3:55 “I am a blood washed servant of the Messiah of Israel Yashuah”?
He’s a son of The Devil, not a blood washed servant of Yashua Messiah. He loves and allies himself with The Serpent Seed Jew
I thought it a most extraordinary bit of blasphemous rubbish. But I had to send it your way; I’ve never seen or heard such mingling and mangling of ideas. Is there such a thing as blood-washed? Isn’t that referring to slaughtered lambs?
It’s Revelation that mentions our robes are washed white in His blood.
Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Once a creature becomes a vile defender of Jews, and someone who praises Jews, then they always end up lying like Jews, it’s a natural degenerative consequence.
Blatant hypocrisy is another characheristic.
Ok. Thanks Charles for that detail.
It made me think this guy is either a total loon, or mind controlled, or perhaps next level new phase propaganda for some scheme or other. At any rate, I’d never heard of such ideas coming from a Jew. Is that what Jews for Jesus sound like?
Oh they are total loons. Anyone who believes lies to be true must be a loon.
Jews for which Jesus? Many profess or preach Jesus, Jews or otherwise, but their’s is a fake Jesus – one made in their image.
Aye, the whole become your own guru or Jesus of the New Age MOvement
By the way, I watched something quite interesting, from a geological point of view I’ll link here, and at the end it quoted John 10:9 “I am the door…” That really struck me as such a definitive on being baptised ONLY into Christ.
Correct, HE is the door and no other.
Hi shakingthespear ““Controlling people through sex” That about sums it up and well explains the G…
Genes, genetics, genitals, gender, generation.”
Perhaps below as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-spot
Not sure how that relates
Hi shakingthespear,
“Controlling people through sex” That about sums it up and well explains the G…
Perhaps I’m missing your point!
Read this guys treaties on his website, its very interesting 🙂
Praise christ, take care=)
He’s wrong. Jews are not Edomites. Jews are Shelahites – Hamitic Canaanites. The Edomites are the Turks and other Turkic peoples descended from Esau, not Judah. Go here for a full explanation of the TRUE ORIGINS of the Jews:
Origins of the Royal Judahites and Canaanite Jews explained:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/were-abraham-isaac-and-jacob-jews-genesis-38-royal-judahites-and-the-canaanite-jews-part-1-of-2/
Any idea what happened to the Mel Gibstein Christian website,it’s not available anymore ?
Thank you and Godspeed.
Not a follower of Gibson so have no idea. You’re welcome and thanks for the positive comment.
Messenger Charles
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Yes I think so too, because why otherwise did they cover themselves? And isn’t the Lord Jesus Christ referring in John 8:44 that Cain killed Abel and lied to Yahweh about it. We have two seedlines. And the Redeemer caught the pharisees in their lies. The Edomites never were in bondage. The Israelites were: Egypt, Assyria, and Babylonia. Esau is indeed the grandson of Abraham. But that’s were it ends.
Yes He did catch them in their lies, because the Jews WERE in bondage, and whilst in Babylon they thought up The Talmud – their oral tradition hence it is called The Babylonian Talmud.
When they said they were never in bondage they lied, just as they lied when they said that they were not born of fornication:
John 8:33 (KJV) They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
Here they display their historical ignorance for they claim to be Abraham’s seed (which was another lie) and yet denied they were ever in bondage, when ALL Israel (Israel and Judah) was taken into captivity, including them.
Here is the origin of The Jews:
Origins of the Royal Judahites and Canaanite Jews explained:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/were-abraham-isaac-and-jacob-jews-genesis-38-royal-judahites-and-the-canaanite-jews-part-1-of-2/
Here are the origins of the Edomites = Esau, that is, Edom:
Obadiah; Esau; The Edomites; Idumea; Turkey:
Are you a disciple of William (Bill) Finck – Christogenea?
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I would say that while men slept, a certain field got ploughed…more than once.
Not sure what point you’re trying to make, but as you’re making reference to the Parable of The Tares – “while men slept”, here’s the link:
The Jews are The Tares:
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No, Cain was like that because he was the off spring of his parents Adam and Eve, who had sinned and now :”all have sinned” as a result. (Romans 3:23). not as you say, that it was the “spirit of the Devil, alive in Cain”, because “Eve bore a child from another source other than Adam, and, of course, that source was The Devil.”
No, rather, Cain was the results of only one source, and that is Adam having sexual relation with Eve, just as Adam “knew his wife “again in Genesis 4:25, resulting in Seth.
And being the offspring of Adam and Eve, such offspring were part of the fall, and only subject to the origin of “the evil one”, which John expressed in 1 John 3:12 as being “of’ the evil one, not “born of” the evil one. “origins” speaking of the “original sins”, from the father and mother.
This is why God told him, “If you do well, will your face not be cheerful? And if you do not do well, sin is lurking at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it.” Genesis 4:7. Cain was as capable of “mastering sin” as well as any man (James 1:12-15), for it merely “lurks at the door” of mans hearts, yet he (being an offspring of Adam who sinned) chose not to.
Yet more fake Christian liberal sophistry AND EXPLAINING AWAY BS – get it through your thick stiff necked head that TWO SEEDS CAME OUT OF THE GARDEN AS CONFIRMED HERE:
Genesis 3:15 (KJV) And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between THY SEED and HER SEED; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise His heel.
Genesis 4:1 is a corrupted verse for Cain is NOT Adam’s seed.
This seed of the woman is prophetically speaking of Christ, as God always had the plan of salvation in mind and informed us of His plan as soon as sin entered the world. Who would come from the woman, speaking of Mary’s offspring; “it shall bruise thy head”. Cain never did that, yet this “it”, (speaking of Christ), did by shedding his blood on the cross! Were Satan bruised Jesus’ “heel” on the cross, Jesus showed complete dominance over Satan by bruising his “head”, rising the third day, breaking the power of death and winning the ultimate victory. This bruise was felt by satan, but did not stop him from having his seed, (mentioned by Christ himself John 8:44 ), those that would not believe in the Christ through satan’s lies (John 10:10).
Thus, satan would have limited victory through his deceiving men, but Christ would have the ultimate victory on behalf of man, when those “in Christ” by faith believing (John 3:16), will celebrate this victory with Christ for eternity, after Christ cast this bruised devil, where he ultimately belongs, Reve. 20:10.
Yet more lying sophistry bullshit. One SEED began with Adam and EVE!! who were the parents of Abel and Seth; to Noah; to Abraham; to Isaac; to Jacob/Israel; to the The Twelve Patriarchs and from one of which, namely Judah, came the twins Pharez and Zarah. See Genesis 38 and educate yourself.
Pharez to King David and Yashua Messiah and Zarah to British and European Royalty and Nobility.
The OTHER SEED was Cain’s SEED via Canaan post flood; through Judah and his Canaanite first wife Bathshuah; to Shelah; to the Canaanite Pharisee and Sadducee Jews = The Serpent Seed.
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If, as you teach, that the Pharisees are of the wicked one, and thus doomed to hell, why would Jesus waste his time talking to the Pharisee Nicodemus, who was favorable to Jesus and believed in his message, when he asked what he must do to go to heaven? Why would Jesus tell Nicodeus he had to be Born Again to see heaven, if he had no chance of being Born Again? (John 3:1 – 2, John 7:50).
Again, why did Paul, having been a Pharisee, get to be saved? Your theology about these so called, wicked seed of the devil makes no sense, for the scripture say’s “All have sinned” and “whosoever believes” are saved, and both the Sadducee’s and Pharisees are both, “whosoever’s” and “have sinned”.
More ignorant nonsense. Nicodemus was most likely a Levite of the Tribe of Levy, just like John the Baptist and his father, so he was NOT a Serpent Seed Jew. No Jew would have come to Yashua Messiah acknowledging that He was a teacher come from God and further enquiring as did Nicodemus.
Just get it through your head that Jews are NOT Hebrews, nor are they Semites, nor are they Israelites, they’re Hamitic Canaanites from Bathshuah – Genesis 38.
The Origins of the Royal Judahites and Canaanite Jews explained:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/were-abraham-isaac-and-jacob-jews-genesis-38-royal-judahites-and-the-canaanite-jews-part-1-of-2/
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I am pretty sure there is a sect that believes Eve was not the first ‘woman’ in the ‘garden’.. I do not believe in that story of Lilith. I don’t think Adam and Eve are a single man and woman. The story of Eden is stolen from Greek mythology. Search for Hermes Trismegistus. Hesiod spoke about the ‘two opposite seeds’ in Theogony. Jesus spoke about the two ‘seeds’ in one of his parables (the sower). And he said what will happen to each of these. One will be ‘cast in the fire’, and the other will always be protected. His words in John tell us not to be afraid for He (the Paraklitos) will be with us till the ‘end’. The serpent seed knows its end times for them.
The story of OT shows a ‘god’ like ‘the god of this earth’ that is like the abuser in an abusive toxic relationship, psychotic, demanding and getting pleasure from humiliating demands (like go and kill your son as proof of your love to me), always quick to wrath, regretting about things, plotting and sending ill winds, casting spells and curses, proof that is nothing of the sort of Father Jesus (IHSOYS or IASON in Greek) spoke of. Abraham slept with Agar (a child!), Lot slept with his daughters. Abraham saying Sara is his sister and passing her around for sex etc etc. Noah’s first thing to do after the ‘flood’ was to get drunk and offer a blood sacrifice??
Oh I can assure you that Genesis predates anything Greek. Unless you’re saying that Greece existed before Adam and Eve = not possible.
You seem to have a skewed view of things Scriptural. Whatever Yah (God) did to certain people, mainly serpent seed Canaanites, they had it coming to them.
Abraham lacked faith in his behaviour re his wife and half-sister Sarah. Noah certainly didn’t plan to get drunk. He planted a vineyard first – have you any idea how labour intensive that is? He then celebrated his first harvest of grapes with the rest of his family and no doubt they were a little bit drunk too.
Abel offered blood sacrifices too, that’s why his offering was favoured by Yah (God) and Cain’s vegetables were not = no blood!
Genesis is a Greek word 🙂 Genesis as an event was in the beginning. Genesis as a ‘scripture’ was way after Greece. Jesus never called his Father ‘Yah’. You need to re-read the OT with humility and pray that the Holy Spirit guides you. I don’t know if you were there when Noah got drunk to say he was a ‘little’ drunk or more wasted or he deserved a little dissipation after planting a vineyard! I come from an agricultural family background where my forefathers did not get smashed when they completed the planting season. As for God clearing the lands from serpent seeds I disagree, it is easy to demonise an indigenous population and killing in the name of ‘God’. God doesn’t send curses or plagues or advise to kill people and their babies but keep their wives and gold.. Why is the OT used in the freemasonic lodges and not the new testament?
“You need to re-read the OT with humility and pray that the Holy Spirit guides you.”
Who the hell do you think you’re writing to you arrogant jumped up popinjay! You need to get off your high horse and ask Yah to humble you.
The first five books were penned by Moses who predates the Greeks by more than a thousand years. The Greek alphabet is based upon the Hebrew alphabet.
“Jesus never called his Father ‘Yah’”
Well He certainly never called His Father, Father until He came in the flesh. Before that they were Yah with Yah – The Yahavah, The Elohim, The Eternal.
However He never called His Father gaud or gawd = a pagan heathen deity. Satan is the only god!
Your forefathers were not 150 days on an Ark and after that the only survivors of a worldwide flood. Try engaging your brain and put yourself in their shoes.
“God doesn’t send curses or plagues or advise to kill people and their babies but keep their wives and gold.”
Yah (The Master Potter) does whatever He likes with the lump of clay at His disposal, especially if it’s Serpent Seed miscegenated inbred lower grade clay.
At least Noah could have shared the drink with his sons and not drink alone. Moses is a Greek word also by the way, you may wish to read the works of a guy called Joseph Jahuda who did his homework and found out that Hebrew is Greek. Greeks were lost Israelites is something I must admit never heard before, you have lost your marbles
This is your last comment, for you’re wasting my time with garbage. Moses was an Egyptian name you numbskull. And Greek is based upon Hebrew – period, as is English!
There’s a lot you have never heard before and that’s because you obtain your information from the bottom of empty cornflakes packets!
Hello Charles,
Wow! So many questions but more readings are necessary before asking any of them except this one considering it deals with the Father’s calling which led me to your teachings in the first place having had such a profound effect on me.
Given God’s perspective is outside of time, does the lamb slain before the foundation of the world mean that the die was cast with the falling away of Satan, the serpent creature in the Garden? That Satan would corrupt God’s creation in man requiring our redemption though the Son’s death and resurrection in Jesus Christ to prove our desire to receive the Father’s calling and be saved through Jesus Christ?
Hello Charlie,
The Serpent Creature didn’t fall away, he was created evil from the beginning.
Genesis 3:1 (MCV) (First Part) Now The Serpent Creature was more subtil (sly, devious and crafty) than any beast of the field which The Yahavah Yah HAD MADE.
That means Yashua Messiah was always going to be The Lamb slain from before the foundation of the world, it was all planned well in advance – if ‘planned’ is even the right word.
Having said that Adam and Eve didn’t have to make the wrong choices, for they were completely free in The Garden and were fully aware of Yahavah Yah’s instructions, albeit completely innocent like children, before they fell.
At no point do we have a desire to receive The Father’s call. The Father ALWAYS intervenes in our lives in a myriad of ways in order to grab our attention, and usually this is an unwelcome intervention, due to our materialism and obsessive involvement with this world and its ways – Satan’s ways.
The desire only comes after the awesome call, and He makes Himself known to us.
So, given God knows the beginning and the end, even though Adam and Eve were free to make up their own mind, it was always going to be The Lamb slain for our redemption. This may sound repetitive but it’s another foundational element I need to get right. So, am I on target, Charles?
And thanks for straightening me out on The Father’s call, a watershed moment for me in my relationship with God.
Peace, Charles.
Hello Charlie,
Oh yes it was always going to be their fault even though He knew what would happen before it happened.
He explains this scenario on a bigger scale here:
Matthew 13:10-16 (MCV) And the Learners came, and said unto Him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of The Kingdom of God, BUT TO THEM IT IS NOT GIVEN. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13 THEREFORE I SPEAK TO THEM IN PARABLES: because they seeing, see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross (has grown fat and lazy), and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED, AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
He is deliberately withholding knowledge from them, but it’s their fault that He is doing so, and this is for their own good in the longer term. Please see this article if you have not already done so:
Why Are There Two Resurrections?:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2019/08/13/why-are-there-two-resurrections-part-1/
Yes, I have read this article and the earth moved under my feet… okay, a little dramatic but it was major. It addressed another question that has irked me since childhood (nine years of Catholic education)… the one strike and you’re out teaching of Christianity (although the Catholics had their notorious purgatory for the shake and bake… lol).
So, the biblical teachings of The Father’s calling and the lineage of Adam all being saved have become foundational. The blocks representing the biblical teachings of the serpent seed and the duality Godhead have yet been mortared into place.
Peace, brother.
Charles
Hello Charlie,
Actually, I don’t think that it is dramatic, for all truth is earth shattering when we first learn about it and/or discover it. For me it was learning that my trinity full immersion Baptism was bogus, and I had to do it again in Yashua Messiah’s (Jesus Christ’s) name alone.
Glad you’re a good brick layer. LOL
Hello, Charles.
As I struggle to make sense of how a people, the progeny of Cain, the serpent’s seed, could all be destined to eternal damnation before ever been given a chance through repentance I wondered, could the souls which comprise these spirits have already committed the irredeemable act against God before they ever arrived on this earth? Could we have all been part of God’s heavenly domain before this world ever came to be?
And there were others who offended God but proved themselves worthy of redemption thus their names God wrote in the Lamb’s Book of Life and were given bodies on this earth from the lineage of the twelve tribes of Israel. As for those who remained true to God in His kingdom, there they still reside with The Father and Son.
This thought crossed my mind this morning. Just speculation, of course, loosely connected with the Book of Genesis and the fallen angels. I feel another breakthrough is imminent in understanding these articles with the potential for explaining so much of the orchestrated evil that has become so apparent today that only the Word of God can verify. Could you kindly offer your reflection?
Hello Charlie,
The Jew’s forefathers put paid to any redemption for their offspring – they truly rejected Him and obviously were prepared to pay the price, and not only that, but made sure that their progeny, ad infinitum, would also pay the same price:
Matthew 27:25 (MCV) Then answered all the the Jews, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
See the parable of the rich man and Lazarus:
The Prophetic Parable of Lazarus And The Rich Man – Parts 1 and 2:
There is no life before this life, Charlie, spiritual or otherwise – we come from oblivion and return to oblivion when we die. Only Yashua Messiah can bring us back to life from out of oblivion.
Souls are not spirits, a soul is a living breathing creature, so souls die, and know nothing = oblivion. The spirit in man returns to The Yahavah where He no doubt keeps a record of all our lives.
The only pre-life phenomenon is that of predestination, whereby He knows us in His Mind before we’re born, that is, those that are to be called and chosen in this life.
Jeremiah is the example here: Jeremiah 1:5 (KJV) Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
No one proves themselves worthy of redemption. Redemption is purely an undeserved free gift, given to those The Father calls and chooses – usually the low and the base things of this world.
The reasoning behind the Fatherly decision to call and choose someone is totally hidden from us – only He knows.
No one is residing with The Father and The Son – YET!
I am glad to hear that another break through is imminent – you’re in my prayers.
Brother Charles
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